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This is what happens when you are allowed a capacity advantage. The twins with bigger engines rule was written for Ducati.

I never really looked at the twin's capacity as an advantage considering they're down 2 cylinders.
 
Every manufacturer had the option of going to the Open class this year, not just Ducati. They're trying to make it look like Ducati is being given an unfair advantage when the same thing was offered to everybody!

Dorna never said manufacturers couldn't make recommendations or provide their input for the spec ECU. If a factory has code they want in the spec ECU and it works better than what's currently there. Dorna said they would review it and if it's truly better they would implement it. The thing is, everybody gets to use the update!

I totally agree with you. and I'm not saying it's wrong.

I just understand Honda's frustration, and find it a bit entertaining...

As you said, the Open spec. regulations is open to everyone. And I think that that option is quite interesting for Yamaha aswell, since they are already using Magneti Marelli, albeit a different version with their own software. Right?

IF Yamaha would make the switch, this leaves Honda in kind of a tough situtation... Agree to DORNA's demands and switch to spec ECU/Software after all, or try to compete with all other factories/teams with fewer engines, less fuel, and harder tyres. Or drop out of MotoGP all together....

If find this whole situation kind of entertaining...
 
Javier Alonso explains "˜Factory 2' proposal

Javier Alonso, Managing Director of Dorna's Events Area has explained the philosophy behind the plans, which are submitted for approval by the Grand Prix Commission on 11th March.

The proposal would see Factory Honda and Yamaha bikes competing with a 20 litre fuel capacity limit, five engines sealed at the beginning of the season and without the Extra-Soft tyre. The Open entries have 24 litres of fuel, 12 non-sealed engines and a softer tyre option. There would then be an additional Factory 2 class as explained by Alonso.

"The proposal which has been made relates to Open entry manufacturers achieving podium results, specifically three third positions, two second places or one victory, in dry race conditions. They would then have certain limitations applied relating to the Open class (22.5 litres of fuel reduced from 24) and less engines available (the total reduced from 12 to 9)," states Alonso, Dorna Managing Director and Race Direction member.

He added, "We looked at the Sepang test results, especially the second test, and it's clear that of the two software versions used, the second developed by Magneti Marelli offers great performance. The fact is that the only manufacturer ready to use that software is Ducati. That gives them some advantage when combined with the Open rules, so we have therefore made this plan to the GP Commission, to find a balance which does not give one manufacturer too much of an advantage."

"As a championship we aim to allow everyone to have the best possible technology, including this type of software, but from talking to the private teams they are not yet set up to be able to use this "˜full software'. Clearly Ducati were not at the same level as Honda and Yamaha last season and what they have done is to look for a way within the rules to improve their grid and race results. We understand that by making some changes they can be closer to the other constructors but we do not want them to have too much of an advantage, as it would be unfair for them to beat the rest of the manufacturers with greater ammunition. So we think the proposal on the table is a good solution."

The Dorna Director also confirmed that the rule changes now taking place have a long term objective of creating a more level playing field in terms of technology. The goal is for all MotoGP entries to be Open by 2016.

"The ECU and software development work is being undertaken now with the objective that soon everyone uses the same ECU, like this season, and eventually the same software," Alonso explained.

"Our duty is to ensure that the very best software is developed and that the manufacturers can make the best of it with their bikes. In fact, we are asking the factories to help us with this software development."

"We are saying to them, "˜look we have this piece of software and if you think you can improve it and we can apply it, then the only thing we're asking is that it can be used by the rest of the field.' Whenever we find that improvements can be made, we want to make them."
 
Open rules for everyone or go to full-on prototype class with multiple type brands and minimal rules. If they adopted those rules Honda would really complain.

It was Honda who limited it to 4-cylinders, etc etc. Then in Moto2 with all Honda engines, etc etc. With all do respect, screw Honda and their whining! Unfortunately, Honda has the most money to "grease the (race) tracks all across the world". Honda is filled with a bunch of cry babies, if they can't win then they just complain until the rules get changed in their favor.



What the rules should be is:

"Factory teams who win one race or finish second twice or third three times will be designated "Factory 2" and will have their engine allotment fuel reduced in future races from 20 liters to 18.5, and their total season engine allocation reduced from 5 to 4 engines."
 
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Seems like Honda management can't count laps or read rule books.

maybe they cant count laps or read the rules but they can count championships. oh yea ducati can do that too

1 lol casey stoner thanks for playing.
 
maybe they cant count laps or read the rules but they can count championships. oh yea ducati can do that too

1 lol casey stoner thanks for playing.

They had to sit and count all the championships Rossi won when he left them. :D
 

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