Honda CBR1000RR-R SP 2024 vs V4R 2023

The idea of winning on Sunday selling on Monday is still a thing but in the real world any of the liter bikes are excellent. Honda have a big cult following for the fireblade so I dont think they'll have too much problem selling them. The manu's know that super bikes are a dying sector but they need their flagships to lead the charge technically etc.
Next bike in the stable for me will be an inline 4, probably an R1 because they are in the sweet spot for performance and ease of maintenance plus they sound awesome. Obviously Ill keep the V4 but some of the Ducati charm definitely left the building with the end of the big twins, I still think the 1299 is more fun for the dollar than the V4 even though the V4 is better in almost every area. Back the Honda, youre not saving any money getting one but you get Honda build quality which is pretty much the best out there.
 
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The new Honda looks pretty and brings all the reliability attributes and great performance mentioned above.

I'm just nervous about whether Honda have really addressed the issues that held back the previous iterations, viz - over intrusive ABS and gearing that is hard to change. 3 ABS settings and modified gearing does not necessarily mean that that the problems have been dealt with - especially with Honda's goody two shoes attitude. And why, with all the track narrative and the understanding that more and more of these bikes are being bouget to race or use on track, have they seen fit to put on electronic suspension?? That will go in the bin for race teams and for most serious track enthusiasts too.
Shame, might have been tempted otherwise.
 
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The new Honda looks pretty and brings all the reliability attributes and great performance mentioned above.

I'm just nervous about whether Honda have really addressed the issues that held back the previous iterations, viz - over intrusive ABS and gearing that is hard to change. 3 ABS settings and modified gearing does not necessarily mean that that the problems have been dealt with - especially with Honda's goody two shoes attitude. And why, with all the track narrative and the understanding that more and more of these bikes are being bouget to race or use on track, have they seen fit to put on electronic suspension?? That will go in the bin for race teams and for most serious track enthusiasts too.
Shame, might have been tempted otherwise.
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no one cares about a single thing that you mentioned when on track mate

and no one buys cbr1000rr-r as a road bike
 
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I have a feeling that the latest Ohlins electronic suspension is probably more than good enough for 90% of people on track?
 
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amazing guy but I wonder how long will he be doing this. His team suck big at BSB unfortunately. Frankie had few big crashes
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I don’t think they have the right rider. I quite liked the guy that was standing in for their main Rider recently.

I like his sense of humour annd presentation and he was a decent rider himself. Interesting seeing the build though.
 
I’m going to have a look at the Fireblade on Tuesday. There’s only one in the country but thankfully it’s not too far away.

25,700 Euros for the SP and then add the forged wheels to get it roughly equivalent to the V4S and you’re saving about 5,000 Euros with the Honda. If you add an exhaust then it costs a lot less for a full Akrapovic on the Honda than the half system on the Ducati.

21,700 Euros for the base Honda versus 27,490 Euros for the base Ducati. Both need wheels and suspension, and I’d want data as well.

It will be interesting to have a sit on the Honda.

Base with HRC kit, very decent suspension and brakes with exhaust, etc… it would be a pretty serious bit of kit for similar money to the V4S.

SP with some forged wheels and some rearsets would no doubt be a very capable track bike.

Same could be said about the V4S. It felt great to sit on and I like the simplicity of the TPMS and DDA add-ons. DDA actually doesn’t seem bad value. Then again, you could stick the new AiM logger on the tail with the Honda for half the price.

My head says the Fireblade is probably the way to go, either with the SP and keep it simple or the base and spec it up for the fun of it.

My heart still fancies the Panigale, which of course you’d not be having buyers remorse about.

Swinging back and forth between the two and I’m buying a house and don’t want a mortgage, so I can’t really be buying two bikes like Steven and keeping another three in the garage. 🤣 If I do that then it will cost me a fortune in shoes and handbags… 🫣 Practically speaking, I’m getting to the age where I’m starting to hate having lots of stuff hanging around that I don’t need or use.

Just thinking out loud and trying to convince myself to go down the Honda route… :rolleyes:
 
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