How naughty can I be after 1st service?!

anthem · Mar 30, 2013

Kuroshio said:
There's 1 real risk to the "ride it like you stole it" mentality: done wrong, a person can screw up their engine. Glazed cylinder walls is a good example. I follow the manufacturer's recommended run in simply because bikes nowadays are getting smarter than our smartphones. Dunno how much info Ducati can pull from the ecu. BMW swears they can pull a lot tho.

If something were to happen, like my engine grenades during breakin (or shortly after), I don't want some tech looking at a single line in a datalog and saying "right there is where he screwed himself". And since I'm not a racer, 5 or so potential hp don't mean anything to me

Not really. Those are "break in recommendations" and not mandatory requirements.

Kuroshio · Mar 30, 2013

anthem said:
Not really. Those are "break in recommendations" and not mandatory requirements.

Aye. I just prefer to fall on the side of caution cause I don't trust corporate types when they have to start counting money. The service tech might know we didn't do any harm. But when the invoice slides across some manager's desk for a signature...

The May 2013 issue on Motorcyclist has an article on engine break in. They do say this

It's okay to run your new engine hard, as long as you don't overheat it. Let it cool down between bursts of throttle

That's what I meant about doing it wrong. Guys rape their engine for extended periods without a good cooldown. And end up glazing the cylinder walls. And I'll mention one other thing I always bring up when this debate starts up:

Agree with the manufacturers or not, they're not idiots. They won't recommend a course of action that could potentially lead to warranty claims. Paid warranty claims eat profits.

anthem · Mar 30, 2013

Kuroshio said:
Agree with the manufacturers or not, they're not idiots. They won't recommend a course of action that could potentially lead to warranty claims. Paid warranty claims eat profits.

true - but if that was the case - the recommendation would be to never track the bike, never rev the bike beyond a certain rpm, or a certain rpm for any length of time, etc, et . ..

But thats the point of the entire thing - they are recommending you baby it as long as possible because they know that most of the problems will be in the beginning and if they can address it before something catostrophic happens - it will cost them less.

WAfatboy · Mar 31, 2013

Cane it, what the f**k is naughty??? Just get on and ride it (and not to f**king Starbucks)

Frosty · Mar 31, 2013

The way I see it....the Ducati engineers and techs know a little more about this bike and engines than I do...and if they are recommending a certain way to break in the bike, I am gonna follow it.

jjsC6 · Mar 31, 2013

If they were that serious why don't they limit the HP during break in period. All the tuning is already in place. They already have a 120 hp "wet" mode and they already have a method of making a soft (orange) redline at 6000 rpm.

Just food for thought, as others have said, I'm not here to recommend what other folks do.

Aviper684 · Mar 31, 2013

Gunny Fitz said:
OOHRAH brother! Great motivation to get back home for man! I love Newport Beach Ducati, used to go there while at Pendleton. Stay safe and hope they took care of you on it there?

Yeah Gunny, Newport took great care of me. My GF drove over with the Power of Attorney, I sent em a copy of my DL, and it was done! Semper Fi!

kope999R · Mar 31, 2013

from what i hear from some who have gone through a pritty full schedule of tuning their engines and riding them hard ( track only) , they did follow the 1K km for guarantee purposes as Ducati can pull the data form the engine. they also found that it takes 2,5k km for the bike to reach its best output.. this was seen over at least 8 different dyno sesions..

so i did follow the 1k rule.. with the bike being optimized anyway, i won't be missing htat last whp!

jjsC6 · Mar 31, 2013

Since posting earlier this morning I went out and put another 200 miles on it today. In four days of owning it I am now at 593 miles and I'm nearly 40 miles to the dealer. I will be getting my 600 (621) mile service done this week! Heck, I even put 320 miles on my Ninja 1000 Friday. Awesome long weekend.

TransNone13 · Mar 31, 2013

jjsC6 said:
Since posting earlier this morning I went out and put another 200 miles on it today. In four days of owning it I am now at 593 miles and I'm nearly 40 miles to the dealer. I will be getting my 600 (621) mile service done this week! Heck, I even put 320 miles on my Ninja 1000 Friday. Awesome long weekend.

Keep it up man!

Styler · Apr 1, 2013

Styler said:
I reccomend not servicing your bike until you reach 621 miles (1,000 KM), when the service light comes on. Otherwise, the light will come on and you will have to return to the dealer.

The above remains true; regardless of how you break-in the engine.

Bronston · Apr 1, 2013

I showed up at my dealer with 600 miles on the clock. They had me go out for a ride of twenty miles to get it to click-over. Anyway. riding a Pani a few miles is hardly a chore.

kope999R · Apr 1, 2013

just saw the dash change... 1018 km' in the freezing cold!

but did it!

and funnily enough she just kept going for the orange line! but now at 11K

wacked het open and boy, is she willing wit a 7 to 10k playground..

so now to the dealer and then the build can begin in earnest!

today there was quit a bit of wind and the difference between head and tail winds was very noticable!

capnjack52 · Apr 2, 2013

Naughtiness ... delayed

FWIW: I followed Sebastian's (Melillimoto) recommendation to keep to Ducati's break-in schedule. He also recommended running the throttle up and down to the break-in rev limit, shifting gears frequently - even while riding steady state on a highway - and varying speed often. It made for some maddening rides speeding up and slowing down during break-in, but I've never had a smoking problem and, with ~ 3000 miles on the engine, it feels tight and revs smoothly throughout the range to redline. As many of you know, Seb has a couple of decades of experience wrenching/racing Ducs, so I place a lot of credence in his advice ... YMMV!

JONAH · Apr 2, 2013

I rode mine by the book untill the first service, then eased it up through the rev range up until about 1000mile after that i thrashed the f**k out of it...

Dillan13 · Apr 2, 2013

I went easy about the first 1,000

Yards thats is!

Charliem90 · Apr 2, 2013

capnjack52 said:
FWIW: I followed Sebastian's (Melillimoto) recommendation to keep to Ducati's break-in schedule. He also recommended running the throttle up and down to the break-in rev limit, shifting gears frequently - even while riding steady state on a highway - and varying speed often. It made for some maddening rides speeding up and slowing down during break-in, but I've never had a smoking problem and, with ~ 3000 miles on the engine, it feels tight and revs smoothly throughout the range to redline. As many of you know, Seb has a couple of decades of experience wrenching/racing Ducs, so I place a lot of credence in his advice ... YMMV!

It's good advice. One thing I'd add is to heat cycle it. Let it run to temp then shut it off and let it cool down. Relieves stresses induced in casting process.

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