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What is the OEM partno. that failed and which replacement brand/partno.? Tx


Is the replacement part I used. Not sure what the OEM number is, it could be multiple since the OEM one is split into two halves and contains a thermostat valve.
 
Love my Kawi’s but other than the kz 900-1000 my most reliable bikes were Honda's
The only bikes that have ever left me stranded on the side of the road, in the middle of nowhere, thumb out, eventually requiring a truck to fetch the dead bike, were..., Hondas! Twice!
I don't buy into the myth that Hondas are some super reliable exception within the sportbike realm..
Performance demands maintenance, no matter what the emblem on the tank. Ducatis absolutely demand to be maintained for the performance they deliver
 
A lot of the focus into reliability has to do with the owner. You have a large percentage of owners who are intimidated by the process of doing even routine maintenance on these things let alone repairs so they are reliant on the dealer. This accounts for a large majority of “bikes at the dealer again” banter. From an electronic diagnostic/troubleshooting perspective, these things are out of reach for just about everyone but a few and the dealer likes it that way. Mechanically, you have a lot of guys who can’t even figure out how to do simple mechanical tasks. That’s a sign of the times. We ain’t the manly men we once were. As the bikes become more “gimmick” laden you will see more issues that are completely outside the scope of “home repair” and the dealer stories will increase.
 
if you grew up with DIY as part of your passion for bikes its really confusing to hear about people taking them to the dealer for an oil change.
 
HAhahaaa Where's the lol emoticon? Why we only get "like?"

if you grew up with DIY as part of your passion for bikes its really confusing to hear about people taking them to the dealer for an oil change.

So many headlines...

"Diminishing Skills and cognitive abilities from the automation of everything."

Has humanity reached 'peak intelligence'? - BBC Future

IDIOCRACY
You guys know this is a documentary of our near future right? If you haven't seen the first :20mins you really owe it to yourself to learn where the people that turn left into you come from.

A lot of the focus into reliability has to do with the owner. You have a large percentage of owners who are intimidated by the process of doing even routine maintenance on these things let alone repairs so they are reliant on the dealer. This accounts for a large majority of “bikes at the dealer again” banter. From an electronic diagnostic/troubleshooting perspective, these things are out of reach for just about everyone but a few and the dealer likes it that way. Mechanically, you have a lot of guys who can’t even figure out how to do simple mechanical tasks. That’s a sign of the times. We ain’t the manly men we once were. As the bikes become more “gimmick” laden you will see more issues that are completely outside the scope of “home repair” and the dealer stories will increase.
 
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*That would be funnier if I didn’t just get outta the hospital from someone turning turned left into me
 
A lot of the focus into reliability has to do with the owner. You have a large percentage of owners who are intimidated by the process of doing even routine maintenance on these things let alone repairs so they are reliant on the dealer. This accounts for a large majority of “bikes at the dealer again” banter. From an electronic diagnostic/troubleshooting perspective, these things are out of reach for just about everyone but a few and the dealer likes it that way. Mechanically, you have a lot of guys who can’t even figure out how to do simple mechanical tasks. That’s a sign of the times. We ain’t the manly men we once were. As the bikes become more “gimmick” laden you will see more issues that are completely outside the scope of “home repair” and the dealer stories will increase.

It’s unfortunate that these discussions usually devolve into negativity and judgment.

The observation above has little to do with a dramatic shift in manliness, and more to do with complexity, priorities and allocation of time.

There was a time when everyone grew their own food and built their own homes too, but as the workforce became more complex it required more occupational specialization - people had to devote more and more time to honing the skills specific to their occupation, which required a narrowing of the previously very broad overall skill set.

Regarding the extent to which someone works on their car or bike (the “built, not bought” argument), it’s worth noting that most people consider “respectable” the level of skill that they themselves possess, and only negatively evaluate those with lesser skill. It’s similar to the old adage regarding highway driving - anyone driving slower than you is an ....., and anyone driving faster is a maniac. If a guy can wrench, that’s the level of skill he considers respectable - he doesn’t consider himself a chump just because he can’t fabricate.

Many guys do nearly all their own wrench turning, but no fab work because they can’t weld. Are they chumps because they don’t fab? Some guys can weld but don’t do electrical. Are they chumps because they wrench and weld but don’t build their own harness? What if a guy does all his own mechanical work, fabrication, and electrical - is he a chump because he isn’t a motor builder or tuner? Who among us casts their own frames or engine blocks?

Bottom line is that the accumulation of skill takes time and effort, and if one guy spends his time and effort learning to be a plumber or going to medical school rather than learning to work on a motorcycle, it doesn’t mean he’s any less manly than the guy who chose to spend his time learning to work on a motorcycle (who probably doesn’t do his own plumbing or provide his own medical care). We’re all a lot more similar than we are different. The guy who maintains his own bike is no better than the guy who pays someone else to do it because they prioritize and allocate their time to activities that don’t involve working on motorcycles. We’re all here because we share a passion for Ducati.

Endodoc, you too busy doing manly .... to respond to my pm? Lol
 
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A lot of the focus into reliability has to do with the owner. You have a large percentage of owners who are intimidated by the process of doing even routine maintenance on these things let alone repairs so they are reliant on the dealer. This accounts for a large majority of “bikes at the dealer again” banter. From an electronic diagnostic/troubleshooting perspective, these things are out of reach for just about everyone but a few and the dealer likes it that way. Mechanically, you have a lot of guys who can’t even figure out how to do simple mechanical tasks. That’s a sign of the times. We ain’t the manly men we once were. As the bikes become more “gimmick” laden you will see more issues that are completely outside the scope of “home repair” and the dealer stories will increase.

While I agree with you to a point, some people just value there time more than the cost to do maintenance. I normally don’t do my own maintenance, even though I have the skills to do so. The idea that an oil change costs $200 to $250 is a bit extreme.

Reliability does not have a thing to do with maintenance. Ducati’s, with the exception of the cost of the valve adjustment, is equal to any other liter bike.

The Ducati clutch slave cylinder is a common issue. I can not recall another common issue with the Panigale series, but I am sure there are a few other things. We have all had recalls
 
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All I know is that with bikes and high powered ones especially, its important to have an understanding of mechanical basics and keep them clean.
 
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“Reliability has nothing to do with maintenance” really? Someone needs to tell that to the airline industry. Those idiots are spending millions on maintaining fleets when I guess the planes would be just as reliable without it. Who knew
 
It sure as .... does if no one is doing the maintenance and if it’s “maintenance intensive” an you’re time is too valuable to do it then I guess your bike spends an away lot of time at the dealer. Good plan. The problem with service centers is, the service sucks. We lease through Mercedes so I don't ever touch the daily drivers. If there is an issue with any of the cars I pick up the phone and politely inform my customer rep that "their car" has a problem. They come to my house with a comparable loaner, pick up the victim, repair whatever needs to be repaired and return the vehicle to my front door detailed and full of gas. If i spent 30K on a new bike and had an issue with it under warranty, I would expect the same service but thats not what you get is it. You get to drop the bike off and wait indefinitely for a part they don't have but you still enjoy the luxury of making the payment. This board is full of these stories. Not picking on the brand in general as I'm sure other brands are the same but you do pay a premium with this brand (for everything), I would expect a bit more but people are now used to bad service so it is what it is. The bike comes out of warranty and you haven't toyed with your man skills, good luck with that money pit.
 
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Being “maintenance intensive” doesn’t declare it unreliable
Maybe not but...

There’s a big difference between a $80k+ top fuel motor requiring a complete rebuild after being under full power for less than 4 seconds and a $30k street bike that one would hope they could expect to be reliable for at least the first 15,000 miles

Disassembly and visual (or maybe even some sort of penetrant) inspection and rotating parts out will definitely help avoid failures in any class of racing. Frequency and depth of these is usually determined by 1) What you are using as a base and 2) how much power you are making

But again, for a lot of us these are STREET bikes. 200 measly hp street bikes. What class you race Ed? Mick?
 
Don, you get pointed in the right direction and then like clockwork, right off the rails again.
 
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Don, you get pointed in the right direction and then like clockwork, right off the rails again. Ya need to fix this.

Some people here spend a lot of time and effort telling others what to do.

Endodoc, you still too busy doing manly .... to respond to my pm? Lol
 
LOL man do whatever you want to do. If you enjoy a frequent Ducati rectal cleansing, carry on. Craig, didn't see it. I'll look
 

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