Inflation is out of control

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Price of this V4SL jumped from $92,000 to $110,000 in one week!

 
The SL is a super cool piece if factory engineering, but I wouldn’t trade my bike for one.

there are almost no modifications that you can make to that bike whatsoever, not even ergonomics….almost every part on that bike is bespoke to it so no aftermarket replacements or upgrades on anything.

it’s almost like they built that bike to show what they could do but with no intention of real human beings riding it. Especially if you are outside of the size range they spec’d it for.

it’s the ultimate collector bike for non-riders I think.
 
The SL is a super cool piece if factory engineering, but I wouldn’t trade my bike for one.

there are almost no modifications that you can make to that bike whatsoever, not even ergonomics….almost every part on that bike is bespoke to it so no aftermarket replacements or upgrades on anything.

it’s almost like they built that bike to show what they could do but with no intention of real human beings riding it. Especially if you are outside of the size range they spec’d it for.

it’s the ultimate collector bike for non-riders I think.

I don't have one infront of me, but pretty sure you can throw rearsets and clipons in it? Aswell as a seat pad.
The biggest disappointment is the non adjustable swingarm pivot. But, if you threw 100k at a factory bike, I'm sure you could get that figured out.
 
There is a market for this sort of thing and ducati know that so do it. Working in the world of Porsche they are the same, if you built it several will want it and are prepared to pay a huge premium for it.

Ducati did it with the recent SP2 again because there is a market for it!

However I look at that and think that is not the ultimate track tool... I would wager my base 22 bike with its upgrades is far superior a bike, far more track focussed, with better products attached to it...and at a far cheaper price.

If I don't fook it up ill have all the std parts to return it to a std bike and still have all the Gucci parts to use again or sell.
 
i just checked on a price for a 2019 v4 clutch switch and was pleasantly horrified to see a price of 87.00 plus shipping and tax .. itl be a 100.00 part by the time i get it, holy chit.. although i need it because of the unique situation i find myself in. i will not do it maybe i got old and cheap but i doubt it.. its the principle .. i understand its a DUC but hell no, so i ordered a brembo pressure banjo.. which will also work perfectly for the clutch switch in my use.
 
This is what happens when the government prints free money, and a lot of it, in a very short amount of time. How much was total covid related spending again? $4.5 trillion?

Let's not turn this into a political argument please. All parties are to blame. Trump printed $2.5T and Biden continued to print an equal amount. Politicians are politicians, what gets my goat is the Fed going with the flow and not leading from the front. You don't need to be a big-time economist to know such a large amount of free money injected in a very short amount of time won't spike inflation in an uncontrollable fashion.
 
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I don't have one infront of me, but pretty sure you can throw rearsets and clipons in it? Aswell as a seat pad.
The biggest disappointment is the non adjustable swingarm pivot. But, if you threw 100k at a factory bike, I'm sure you could get that figured out.

clipons yes but rear sets no, at least not easily…literally almost every nut bolt and fastener is bespoke on that bike…the guys at Ducati Newport Beach had one in and we were looking at it and the techs were telling me how much of a process it was to do exactly that: Change the rear sets
 
The sight heel guard is integrated into the heat shield for the exhaust. Kind of an odd design choice since it really paints you into a corner. If you buy a SP at less then half the price, you get the overpriced Ducati/Rizoma rearsets, which while stupid expensive are much better than the stock.

I don't know why the 1199 SL was around $50-60k and V4 SL is about twice as much.

Knowing what I know now, there's no way in hell I'd ever pay that much for a off the shelf bike, no matter who makes it. I'd rather buy a base and sort it out myself.
 
This is what happens when the government prints free money, and a lot of it, in a very short amount of time. How much was total covid related spending again? $4.5 trillion?

Let's not turn this into a political argument please. All parties are to blame. Trump printed $2.5T and Biden continued to print an equal amount. Politicians are politicians, what gets my goat is the Fed going with the flow and not leading from the front. You don't need to be a big-time economist to know such a large amount of free money injected in a very short amount of time won't spike inflation in an uncontrollable fashion.

that’s an over simplification

The vast majority of that money was spent on disposables…business owners largely stocked up on inventory or became lazy about cash flow management while they grew during Covid, so a lot of the money that went to business’s got eaten up in the working capital deficits created by letting Accounts Receivable run too long while paying payables too fast and tying up too much money in long lead time inventory costs.

And the money given to individuals mostly went to funding a year long vacation for people sitting on unemployment so it covered disposables while not working not hard goods that would increase demand and drive inflation and another big chunk went into speculative investing in Crypto and Robinhood stock traders who are actively losing it all now.

So oddly, most of that printed money is not making inflation…

supply and demand started it, now it’s just good old fashioned profiteering.

But not traditional supply and demand, supply chain breakdowns caused a temporary shortage of supply while demand did not increase dramatically…that combined with dramatically increased shipping costs drove prices up….but now that the supply chain is working itself out companies are keeping the higher prices and taking extra margin.

net profits across the board in this country are up by 15-25% over the last 2 years, and that even with moderate wage increases.
 
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Ok that made my head hurt so I just went out and spent $1800.00 on the XA2N650 16x19 clutch MC for absolutely no ....... reason because I needed that like socks need buttons but as a capitalist, damn that felt good. I also sent 30k meal replacement bars to Ukraine and wrote a fat check to the Animal Rescue Foundation. .... inflation, make more money and spread it around.
 
Ok it was only 1400.00 with shipping but it’s 1800 from just about everyone. Guys, WRS is beating “inflation” these guys always have lower prices and they actually stock the shot they advertise. If you need it, WRS is the place to go. 8B614368-583C-4F24-B457-431C35A68DD9.png
 
Ok that made my head hurt so I just went out and spent $1800.00 on the XA2N650 16x19 clutch MC for absolutely no ....... reason because I needed that like socks need buttons but as a capitalist, damn that felt good. I also sent 30k meal replacement bars to Ukraine and wrote a fat check to the Animal Rescue Foundation. .... inflation, make more money and spread it around.

hahahaha

You’re not on the hamster wheel, none of that stuff matters if you aren’t lol
 
Ok it was only 1400.00 with shipping but it’s 1800 from just about everyone. Guys, WRS is beating “inflation” these guys always have lower prices and they actually stock the shot they advertise. If you need it, WRS is the place to go. View attachment 43304

hey brother what was the specific Brake MC you have again, want it but need to research and make sure it works with my calipers.
 
that’s an over simplification

The vast majority of that money was spent on disposables…business owners largely stocked up on inventory or became lazy about cash flow management while they grew during Covid, so a lot of the money that went to business’s got eaten up in the working capital deficits created by letting Accounts Receivable run too long while paying payables too fast and tying up too much money in long lead time inventory costs.

And the money given to individuals mostly went to funding a year long vacation for people sitting on unemployment so it covered disposables while not working not hard goods that would increase demand and drive inflation and another big chunk went into speculative investing in Crypto and Robinhood stock traders who are actively losing it all now.

So oddly, most of that printed money is not making inflation…

supply and demand started it, now it’s just good old fashioned profiteering.

But not traditional supply and demand, supply chain breakdowns caused a temporary shortage of supply while demand did not increase dramatically…that combined with dramatically increased shipping costs drove prices up….but now that the supply chain is working itself out companies are keeping the higher prices and taking extra margin.

net profits across the board in this country are up by 15-25% over the last 2 years, and that even with moderate wage increases.

OK I hear ya. I am glad my comment didn't spark a rapid slide into a politically charged bar brawl. In hindsight, I should have avoided that comment. I was ranting against the Fed more than any political party.

@Steven31371 I'll read more about the points you made above, thanks.
 

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