Infrared video of the Panigale. Here is the heat!
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Can I ask, did you do this with the stock exhaust or the race one? The race one is considerably higher up than the stock one and of course comes with a carbon heat shield bolted directly to the underneath of the subframe. I've only ridden mine once with the race exhaust and that was in the rain and cool temps the other day with no bother from the heat.
If you did it with the stock exhaust then I think the problem stems from having a metal heat shield which obviously, heats up.
So the upshot of all this is no riding in shorts then?..
If you did it with the stock exhaust then I think the problem stems from having a metal heat shield which obviously, heats up.
So the upshot of all this is no riding in shorts then?..
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Guys, take a look at the video from Ducati and Troy Bayliss. They have the test bike fitted with lots and lots and lots of heat wrap ... I suggest WE ALL do the same!! I fitted my Panigale with a really high grade heat wrap yesterday and went riding and it was DEFINITELY cooler, not an extreme difference but I would say a moderate difference. I will add pictures today. You can also take a look at "Ducgrl" photos of her heat wrap. I made sure I put extra heat wrap around the loop area as I could tell this got really hot quickly. I love this test though ... great video lightspeed. Also, what were Ducati thinking in putting a metal shield over a hot exhaust ... imagine if you have lil kids around your bike in the garage or where ever ... DONT let them get close to the bike while hot, the heat shield will NOT do its job of shielding you from burning yourself, it will HELP you burn yourself!!!
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I would love to see this in comparison to other bikes ... BMW 1000RR, Yamaha R1, KTM R8, Aprlia, GSXR 1000R, etc
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This might be a solution :
Awhh mann !!! This movie even scared me away .. I still have nightmares from this movie "It"... if you put that clown on a Panigale, I would never ride it again .. LOL ... Stephen King needs Psychiatric help!!
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The Termi full system exhaust comes with additional heat sheilding materials for the electronics under the seat. I plan to JetHot coat my system (when it gets here...) with their Sterling coating. I'm pretty sure it is a "dipped" coating that coats inside and out of the pipes vs a sprayed-on outer coating like the others I have seen.
(edit: their web site says sprayed-on external now, so... I'll call to find out about the inside and outside coating)
The thermal images, although pretty cool (pun intended), really don't mean a whole lot unless the radiated temp graphs are included to indicate the actual temperature along with an existing bike reference value. The areas shown as "hot" are obvious to a visual review of the bike without the IR imaging.
I've ridden my 1198SP in stop/go traffic with 100 F ambient, plus the local radiant heating from the sunlit pavement heat topping 120 F and although pretty warm it was never actually "painful" or produced skin redness (on me anyway) as many have indicated.
In my view, the exhaust and seating layout of the Pani is set up completely towards track use with no evidence of compromise for street comfort. The 848-1198 series followed this mantra as well, so there is nothing "unusual" about the Pani. The performance-driven engine/chassis changes resulted in the current ergo design, as all Ducati superbikes of the past decade.
Ducati Superbikes = Performance first, then "comfort" only as fits into the "performance" dictated parameters.
Personally, I wouldn't want it any other way. When Ducati seriously compromises performance design simply for ergo comfort, then I will go back to hotrod cars for my required adrenalin prescription...
Not that anyone cares WTF I do, just making a point.
(edit: their web site says sprayed-on external now, so... I'll call to find out about the inside and outside coating)
The thermal images, although pretty cool (pun intended), really don't mean a whole lot unless the radiated temp graphs are included to indicate the actual temperature along with an existing bike reference value. The areas shown as "hot" are obvious to a visual review of the bike without the IR imaging.
I've ridden my 1198SP in stop/go traffic with 100 F ambient, plus the local radiant heating from the sunlit pavement heat topping 120 F and although pretty warm it was never actually "painful" or produced skin redness (on me anyway) as many have indicated.
In my view, the exhaust and seating layout of the Pani is set up completely towards track use with no evidence of compromise for street comfort. The 848-1198 series followed this mantra as well, so there is nothing "unusual" about the Pani. The performance-driven engine/chassis changes resulted in the current ergo design, as all Ducati superbikes of the past decade.
Ducati Superbikes = Performance first, then "comfort" only as fits into the "performance" dictated parameters.
Personally, I wouldn't want it any other way. When Ducati seriously compromises performance design simply for ergo comfort, then I will go back to hotrod cars for my required adrenalin prescription...
Not that anyone cares WTF I do, just making a point.
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I think this has been a huge topic of debate. Ducati has a theme for making PURE race bikes for its customers ... or basically "track ready" as I've heard it. I've also had conversations with direct Italian techs and they say, "hey, you want a ducati, you get what comes with it .. if you dont want that, then dont get a Ducati." I agree!! but alot of us wont simply use the bike for the track ONLY or most of us are not professional racers and ofcourse you can say, "Hey Its a Ducati deal with it." but from a business standpoint if other brands are making bikes with the same performance (or better), same "track readiness", same sound, etc and is much less ... at some point they have to start saying .. hey lets look at some of these complaints if its going to take sales away from us ... which I believe is why we even have the Panigale today. Past bikes from Ducati have slumped in sales and from all of these things, I can see why. US!! loyal Ducati owners (I love my Ducati) keep coming back to buy more Ducati bikes but if that doesn't equal enough to compete with the markets, it doesn't allow the Ducati company to continue to be profitable and make bikes for us to ride ... hence their past financial troubles and selling of the company to Audi ... so don't be surprised to see things starting to happen to the Ducati bike to make it more competitive to other "high performance" bikes ... but it only means good things for us ... trust me. Still love my Ducati though.
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You shouldn't be scared, if his nose was green, you would love the Tricolore scheme
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Yep. The reason the Diavel, Monster, Streetfighter, and Multistrada exist is to sell more Ducatis to the "public" vs enthusiasts only.
The Superbike is and should remain their race bike that is street-legal.
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I did 490 miles yesterday in 62-77 degree weather, in traffic and on the freeway and the heat was brutal. I'm pretty sure bacon would cook if I had some stapled to the underside of my right thigh.
I'm going to wrap the header. For short drives it's bearable, but for long rides it becomes dangerously hot!
I'm going to wrap the header. For short drives it's bearable, but for long rides it becomes dangerously hot!
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Thanks for posting. It's interesting that the rear cylinder isn't the source of heat that I thought it might be so close to the area on my right leg that got burned. I have ridden the bike a lot in the last few days and the bike is fantastic. Heat only becomes an issue when outside temps get above 82F or so. Fortunately it's been pretty cool the last few weeks in Ohio and I have been down here at Deals Gap since Thursday.
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Can I ask, did you do this with the stock exhaust or the race one? The race one is considerably higher up than the stock one and of course comes with a carbon heat shield bolted directly to the underneath of the subframe. I've only ridden mine once with the race exhaust and that was in the rain and cool temps the other day with no bother from the heat.
If you did it with the stock exhaust then I think the problem stems from having a metal heat shield which obviously, heats up.
So the upshot of all this is no riding in shorts then?..
The bike is completely stock.
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