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MadeinItaly said:
I am only giving my personal experience on the Diavel. It was a nightmare. Not your company but the leading well known company. It was done in a black finish. the quality was poor and returned twice. Good customer service but poor results. My local ceramic coating guy said he is no longer doing motorcycle pipes because they are effected easily by motors running rich and rain. On a car no one sees it but on a bike its a PITA. I understand and would never ceramic coat again. Also had it done on my Hayabusa and over time it flaked in a few spots. No difference in heat reduction. Again that is JMHO.
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Sorry to hear you experienced such an epic fail. Based on your description of the failure, i.e. peeling and flaking this is likely mode indicitive of a flawed process as opposed to a complete material failure. I imagine this is part of the reason Jet Hot filed for bankrupcy. Our black Ceramic is rated at 2000F and has been run for years on extreme turbo applications producing horsepower upwards of 3500HP and temps far outside of anything a motorcycle would see. Better yet, the vette above burned down do to a turbo failure and you can see the Ceramic Coating is STILL on the pipes......

I can't speak to your local guy not wanting to do Motorcycles as they contribute to at least 50% of our business.

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jsgcb said:
I am assuming you know the pipes we are all talking about, to give you an idea of size and length, how much for your shop to coat a set of headers for me?
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Not sure on it's actual size and whether you have stock or aftermarket, but I'd estimate in the 200.00-275.00 range. Then you get 10% off for forum or club membership.

Thanks
 
CCPcoatingscom said:
...I imagine this is part of the reason Jet Hot filed for bankrupcy.
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DISCLAIMER - I do not work for Jet Hot.

nCoat filed bankruptcy in 2010 due to debt because of poor management and emerged from Chapter 11 in 2011 as Jet Hot and under new management.

Regardless, Caveat emptor!
 
Jet Hot Coating flaking off rear header

The black satin Jet Hot coating is flaking off the rear header closest to the rear cylinder. The heat shield isn't allowing the heat escape like the original but I would think the black satin paint would withstand the temps. Other evidence of the heat not escaping is the warping of the Rear Carbon Fender due to the heat.
 

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I am in Iraq till mid October. By that time my bike will have been put together with all my CF goodies and she will have power coated exhausts from head to tail inside and out. I am removing the ugly under seat and rear cylinder heat shields too and will report back.
Since my Termignoni slip ons said good bye in the accident I am going the Competition Werkes slip on way (to try something different) and will have a MWR HE filter and Power Commander V with all the fittings and trimmings including a dyno tune.
I will report back. :cool:
These are the guys I am doing it with http://www.powerkote.co.za/Products.html and I am doing Cermakrome Metallic Ceramic Coating (MCX) on the outside and Thermal Barrier Coating (TLHB) on the inside. :cool:
 
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I do not have any coating on my exhaust bottom line is this. whatever brand you use (jet hot or cerokte etc..) is just heat resistant paint with a little ceramic in it. its thin and wont do much for you.

If you want real ceramic coating which is thick and ugly you may want to look into this
White Lightning Exhaust Coatings | Swain Tech Coatings | Industrial Coatings | High Performance Racing Coatings

its no a pretty coating but it actually works. a friend of mine has it on his cars. its thick it stops heat etc.

i know most will not like what i have to say cause they already have their pipes done but jet hot is for looks only will do basically nothing for you, and if you do the polished you have to take apart your cans so the polishing process gets inside too.
 
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mark419ny said:
here is your top 2 brands of painted ceramics

GSD Powder Coating & Sandblasting - GSD Coatings

Jet-Hot Ceramic Coatings

here is all ceramic

White Lightning Exhaust Coatings | Swain Tech Coatings | Industrial Coatings | High Performance Racing Coatings

read what you can make the right choice
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Jet-Hot told me they spray the inside and outside with Ceramic coating first then apply the colored coating on the outside. I wasn't aware of anything better a year ago.
 
they spray the inside and how do they know they have the inside coated properly. you cant take apart the header do they let it drip through the curved header?

im not saying what they told you was not accurate but what is jet hot suppose to say to you. yes we spray high temp paint on your exhaust with ceramic in it to say its ceramic coating.

all im saying is look at what the products really are not what a sales guy told you.

case in point once someone says something it immediately becomes fact. For example the termi new heat shield wont fit on the standard exhaust. where did that start it became rampant even before the new heat shield was out but most important it was totally WRONG.

people start believing things because
1 they are too lazy to do any research or
2 it comes from a reliable source (hence #1)
3 been said so many times it because fact (aka obama speeches)

im not saying this is what you did super at all i am generalizing.
 
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Some of this is an interesting read.

But regarding heat issues with the Panigale specifically, I've thought that ideas regarding ceramic coatings to the exhaust/manifolds as a potential solution to high heat were/are a bit misplaced.
Yes, the coatings look nice and there's probably some benefit there. But it would seem to me that greater benefit would come from coating the underside of the heat shield that's over the rear manifold rather than the pipes themselves.
Admittedly, I'm not affected too much by the heat being generated so no great urgency in trying to find a solution. But seems to me that ceramic coating the underside of the heatshield would serve to enhance the heatshield's primary purpose.
I also question coating the outside of the manifold. The heat source is internal so the coating is trapping any radiated heat at the manifold and bonding agent junction - which could possibly be the source of problems that some people are reporting (chipping/flaking/etc) due to bonding break down.
Just my observations...
 
mark419ny said:
they spray the inside and how do they know they have the inside coated properly. you cant take apart the header do they let it drip through the curved header?

im not saying what they told you was not accurate but what is jet hot suppose to say to you. yes we spray high temp paint on your exhaust with ceramic in it to say its ceramic coating.

all im saying is look at what the products really are not what a sales guy told you.

case in point once someone says something it immediately becomes fact. For example the termi new heat shield wont fit on the standard exhaust. where did that start it became rampant even before the new heat shield was out but most important it was totally WRONG.


people start believing things because
1 they are too lazy to do any research or
2 it comes from a reliable source (hence #1)
3 been said so many times it because fact (aka obama speeches)

im not saying this is what you did super at all i am generalizing.
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My dealer (reliable source) recommended them for my 2012 Monster 1100 Evo and then again for my Panigale. Obama mentioned Jet Hot in his speeches? ha
 
I have Jet Hot Coating, inside and out, Extreme 1300 and Polish on both my 1199S Full Termi' and 1098S Full Termi.

Results : Better heat management. Requires, occasional hand polish (aluminum).

Bottom line - well worth it.
 
Obama mentioned Jet Hot in his speeches? ha[/QUOTE said:
What he meant is that Obama tells the same lie over and over until people think it's fact. Proves the point you fool some of the people all of the time.
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Sloopy said:
What he meant is that Obama tells the same lie over and over until people think it's fact. Proves the point you fool some of the people all of the time.
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I knew it was sarcasm.

Regarding my decision to use Jet Hot coating twice: My very reputable Ducati dealer recommended them besides I do not remember reading a single bad review. Who is to say White Lightning is any better. Maybe they are but this is the first time I've heard their name. After seeing my header flaking I will certainly identify a new vendor the next time.
 
Hi l had my done in mat black Ceramic Coating full system, it does help keeping it cooler but you still feel the heat also a get a lot of comments on how good it looks.
Cheers
 
SuperGmoney said:
I knew it was sarcasm.

Regarding my decision to use Jet Hot coating twice: My very reputable Ducati dealer recommended them besides I do not remember reading a single bad review. Who is to say White Lightning is any better. Maybe they are but this is the first time I've heard their name. After seeing my header flaking I will certainly identify a new vendor the next time.
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im not saying any one brand is better than any other one. i am saying more research should be done into the subject. more than one way to get to the same result
 
SuperGmoney said:
The black satin Jet Hot coating is flaking off the rear header closest to the rear cylinder. The heat shield isn't allowing the heat escape like the original but I would think the black satin paint would withstand the temps. Other evidence of the heat not escaping is the warping of the Rear Carbon Fender due to the heat.
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This could be a bad sand blast job.
If the media is not correct or changed it will cause flaking. Bubbles start to lift then full failure.
 

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