Just wow at how it was all handled

Phl · Oct 12, 2014

Vast, I think your educational approach has reached saturation amongst the audience here.

For further ventures into the world of truth (that most people either can't see, understand or aren't wilting to) please try to stay on sites that are made for the proper audience.

It's about 1199s in the end. And not about the/your big picture.

I know that you know that I know and we know that they should know but they can't know because they don't want to know.

Thanks.

VAST · Oct 12, 2014

Phl said:
Vast, I think your educational approach has reached saturation amongst the audience here.

For further ventures into the world of truth (that most people either can't see, understand or aren't wilting to) please try to stay on sites that are made for the proper audience.

It's about 1199s in the end. And not about the/your big picture.

I know that you know that I know and we know that they should know but they can't know because they don't want to know.

Thanks.

but perhaps....just maybe....nah NOLA et al. dont wanna know....i know...but i rage against....yeah....itz pointless...but did u at least njoy some of these factoids delivered oh so irreverently ¿ ¿ ¿

and in some most tenuously tangential way this is about motorcycles and potentially vehicular laws and such...

Phl · Oct 12, 2014

Yep. But a lot was old news. Having met influential people (not political puppets) in my life and their approach to the crisis in 2008 was an eye opener to me.
For them it was a game. And they won even more.

VAST · Oct 12, 2014

Phl said:
Yep. But a lot was old news. Having met influential people (not political puppets) in my life and their approach to the crisis in 2008 was an eye opener to me.
For them it was a game. And they won even more.

it is a game! even this thread here is a game too. and just wait till the next Fed-induced crash hits (it has begun fyi): i stand to do even better than in 08

& the (finance/legal/PIG/etc) game is always at the expense of hard-working people....sadly....

as an aside: i was with a high up Goldman bond trader few weeks ago and he explicitly told me that he and his teams can't wait for volatility to hit; ie corrections and even better an all out crash... and the pigz just keep trying to hit their quotas and average folks know nothing and care not to.... the bond guy has police lights in his bulletproofed range rover LOL!

VAST · Oct 12, 2014

double0 said:
I feel like I lose IQ points each time I attempt to read your repeated nonsense.

it is quite apparent that you have confused losing as you put it IQ points with the fact that you have very little of it; a distinction that is not inconsequential.

Brad · Oct 13, 2014

At times they certainly can be VAST.

But there are some that are good guys too

Sadly they seem to be systematically marginalized and weeded out as being unacceptable, through being pressured over time by piers and their superiors.
The prevailing culture is what we have left.
Perhaps it's symptomatic of a race to the bottom in society.

For the good cops.
Not meeting the unofficial/unpublished(non-existent

) quotas is one example of how it often goes and put forward as not meeting the KPI's(which are variable

)
It is deemed to be a measure of under performance, which has a flow on effect through the whole of their career.
They usually leave the police force in disillusionment

In the modern world, respect has to be earned.
That especially goes for the respect that's required for the law enforcement agencies to function correctly, and for it to flow on into the wider community in order that society can function as we would all like it to.

I personally see it as a leadership issue from the top right down and throughout the public service.
The politicians need to have absolute integrity and competence, and also be seen to have these qualities, for the proletariat to have confidence in the leadership at all levels.

Trauma · Oct 13, 2014

gigantor said:
hey, thanks for taking me at my word.

Yes, I was detained for no reason. The incident that really sticks it out at me was when I was 16. It was 11pm on a Tuesday evening and I had just dropped a friend off at her home after our high school basketball game had finished. I turned the corner, stopped at the stop sign, put my manual transmission vehicle into neutral, reached behind my seat, switched CDs in my CD player, and continued on my way. I was immediately pulled over by a Ferguson police officer as I passed through the intersection.

"Do you know why I pulled you over?"

"No, sir"

"Are you high? Do you have weapons in the vehicle? Have you been drinking, kid?"

"Uhhh, no, sir"

"You rolled that stop sign back there, are you sure you aren't high?"

"No, sir, I was just coming home from a ...."

"GET OUT OF THE CAR"

He made me get out of the car, put me in the cruiser, searched my tiny honda floor to ceiling removing panels and obviously finding nothing. After about 45 minutes he let me go (and I had to reassemble the interior panels myself).

I come from an air force family, I respect authority, and I am not a liberal.

Thanks

edit: You really have no idea how corrupt that particular department is unless you have lived in St. Louis for any period of time.

I have lived in St Louis since 82, Missouri my entire life. So I know there are a few bad apples here, as there are anywhere else. But the "entire" force is not corrupt, anymore then Vast's entire extended family is probably not as big an ....... as he is in these posts. I do know officers everywhere put their lives on the line every day, and when a mistake is made they all take the fall for it.

gigantor · Oct 14, 2014

Trauma said:
I have lived in St Louis since 82, Missouri my entire life. So I know there are a few bad apples here, as there are anywhere else. But the "entire" force is not corrupt, anymore then Vast's entire extended family is probably not as big an ....... as he is in these posts. I do know officers everywhere put their lives on the line every day, and when a mistake is made they all take the fall for it.

Ferguson, specifically. I was born in 84, lived there until 2007. I'm not defending VAST nor anyone else here, but the Ferguson PD is terrible (majority).

iamlance · Oct 14, 2014

Sparkles the Clown!!!

Trauma · Oct 14, 2014

gigantor said:
Ferguson, specifically. I was born in 84, lived there until 2007. I'm not defending VAST nor anyone else here, but the Ferguson PD is terrible (majority).

Well I currently live here, own 2 rentals there, so I am thinking my opinion is more current, and more mature than both you and Vast put together - no offense.

gigantor · Oct 15, 2014

Trauma said:
Well I currently live here, own 2 rentals there, so I am thinking my opinion is more current, and more mature than both you and Vast put together - no offense.

Doubt it, but that's cool.

Whatever, dude, I shouldn't have posted in here anyway.

Phl · Oct 16, 2014

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE - nuff!

Just wow at how it was all handled

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