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Really? I'm surprised.
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Isn't even a Black7 with an integrated 'gimbal' like steadycam (hardware+software) able to smooth V4 vibrations out?
I tried my Black7 on the roughest of pavements during touring around the Hollywood hills and it filters any vibration out like a smooth birds flight.
Strange.
How strong is the vibration momentum (both in frequency and amplitude) on the V4 then?
I will soon try the same GoPro setup on my V4.
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I used to run the same camera by itself on the 2-bolt (by the ignition) mount as well as on the triple clamp. No issues with vibration without stabilization. I only noticed vibration with this new setup. I do not use stabilization, as it not only smooths vibrations, but it also tries to compensate for lean angle of the bike, which I didn't like initially. I may go back to stabilization again.
vibrations on this bike are not too bad, although the first session with the newly installed for me dry clutch was terrible in terms of vibration. I wish I could break it in off the track, but it felt like the whole bike was about to fall apart. Likely it wore in quickly and vibrations induced by new dry clutch largely went away.
I blame the thickness of the plate, during install I already had doubt about that. It needs to be thicker.
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Would you know how to delete/erase a finish line from the GPS/DDA ?
Finally got to run the Solo2 DL and its a huge improvement over the stock DDA. No more manually setting start/finish, and unlike the DDA, it works perfect every single lap. I've yet to really figure out how to comprehend all the data though.
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Concur 100%.
I think the best use of data is to have someone else's quicker lap and compare to your own and see where they make up time. Preferably the same bike.
I am yet to find one for myself, but hope to get it one day. I like seeing my lean angles and also how little I use full throttle. Some day I hope to learn how do that hand flick all pros do to make more use of full throttle at lean. Also data shows coasting, if any. I am kind of past that, so really tough to see where time can be found without a good comparison.
Another thing I like is best theoretical lap based on best segments.
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Great thread guys! #subscribed
I had my first taste of the track last week and I am hooked. It sounds like the AiM Solo is the way to go.
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I had my first taste of the track last week and I am hooked. It sounds like the AiM Solo is the way to go.
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Hi Thorny,
first of all great job to get everything mounted! Not sure if you managed to fix the vibrations issue since this thread is from last year? Did you get another thicker plate to mount everything?
I have few questions, if you don't mind, as I'm quiet new to bike telemetry and I'm puzzled between the DDA+GPS kit and the SOLO 2 DL+ECU (with the Ducati mount).
So, my understanding is that the DDA has less functionalities than the SOLO 2 DL, at the same time is much smaller and it fits "properly" into the bike.
On the other hand the SOLO 2 DL is a much bigger "item" and it requires some mounting skills.
Does the DDA really drain the bike battery if the key is left plugged in? That's gonna be an issue.
To connect the SOLO 2DL lead to the V4 ECU port is it straight forward? I can see you have remove the upper side of tank, and is there enough room the get the lead going through and underneath the bike seat? As of course you want everything to be hidden underneath the bike and you have just the SOLO 2 DL device showing.
I have a GoPro Session 5 (smaller than the Hero you have) that would be great to pair with the SOLO, but as far as I know the official SOLO support for the Pani V4 would only allow to mount the lap timer on the bike stem, but then, I think that would kind obstruct your viewing to the bike dashboard as it is going to sit a bit higher up on the stem?? That is something I would like to avoid.
Last thing, if for example I want to for a spin ( NOT on a track) would the SOLO record all the GPS movements of the bike with all the parameter and get them tracked on Google Maps/Earth for example?
I really would appreciate your answers to clear my doubts
)Thanks a mill
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Believe it or not, you need to take the bike 15km away, then press the lap button. It'll store the new point. Then go back to the track and set the start/finish etc.
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Marco the current problem with the Solo 2 DL is that neither the Solo 2 DL nor DDA+ do the full data acquisition job for the V4. DDA has all the useful ECU channels but the analysis software is pretty limited. AIM's analysis software is far superior to Ducati's but the Solo 2 DL is missing important channels like TC intervention, Wheelie Control intervention, and Slide Control intervention while it has a bunch of useless channels like DTC level, EBC level, DWC level, and DSC level. I run a DL because the analysis software is key for data acquisition but I'm less than pleased about not having the intervention channels. Also, going wireless for this generation of Solo was a poor, gimmicky, choice on AIM's part.
Yes, DDA and anything else you plug into the diagnostic port in the tail that draws power is liable to drain your battery whether the key is in the ignition not. The positive and negative wires in that connector aren't switched.
Connecting a DL to the bike is a matter of connecting the data cable to the diagnostic port under the seat and running it to wherever on the bike you choose to mount the DL. I believe AIM recommends mounting the DL somewhere with line of sight to the sky though. You could lift the tank, route the wires along the subframe, over the airbox, and come out at the triple. I'm going to do something similar with mine I believe.
BikeSportDevelopments makes a mount that bolts to the ignition cover rather than the hole in the triple. It's in thorny's picture. I have the standard AIM mount on my 1199. I'm trying the BSD mount on my V4 because the AIM mount got loose over time and I think may have had GPS accuracy issues. Probably could have been fixed by replacing the well nut with a new one but we'll see how the hard mounted version holds up.
Yes, if you run the Solo DL on the street it in open/point to point mode it will log your ride. Race Studio Analysis will let you export that in a format you can put into Google Earth.
Yes, DDA and anything else you plug into the diagnostic port in the tail that draws power is liable to drain your battery whether the key is in the ignition not. The positive and negative wires in that connector aren't switched.
Connecting a DL to the bike is a matter of connecting the data cable to the diagnostic port under the seat and running it to wherever on the bike you choose to mount the DL. I believe AIM recommends mounting the DL somewhere with line of sight to the sky though. You could lift the tank, route the wires along the subframe, over the airbox, and come out at the triple. I'm going to do something similar with mine I believe.
BikeSportDevelopments makes a mount that bolts to the ignition cover rather than the hole in the triple. It's in thorny's picture. I have the standard AIM mount on my 1199. I'm trying the BSD mount on my V4 because the AIM mount got loose over time and I think may have had GPS accuracy issues. Probably could have been fixed by replacing the well nut with a new one but we'll see how the hard mounted version holds up.
Yes, if you run the Solo DL on the street it in open/point to point mode it will log your ride. Race Studio Analysis will let you export that in a format you can put into Google Earth.
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Cable to fit 1299? was looking to get a Solo2 DL for racing this year.
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Hi,
I really appreciate all your clarifications on the matter, just a quick one, so all the channels reported here on the AIM site https://www.aim-sportline.com/downl...lo2DL+EVO4S_per_DucatiPanigale-V4_101_eng.pdf referring to the ECU channels like DTC/DWC etc. are just reporting the custom levels you set it up initially (which you can clearly see on the dashboard) and not the way intervenes WHILE using the bike?
And in terms of shape/size, does the SOLO 2 DL obstruct the dashboard view while mounted? It seems that with the BsD mount bolting to the ignition cover just below the bike stem would be ok
thanks
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I think its just for ducati, its not specific for model. Let me double check
I hav a really good mount for it
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The Solo 2 DL logs the configuration of the rider aids and not their instantaneous intervention.
Another thing that's missing that was present on the 1199 is logging of the throttle bodies. As everyone should know what your right wrist is doing and what the throttle bodies are doing frequently do not line up on a 1:1 basis. The 1199 had logging so you could see that difference. The V4's AIM configuration does not.
The AIM mount on my 1199 obscured my dash. Especially when I was tucked for a straight. I've been trying to figure out a way to position my camera mount so it captures the dash, my clip ons, and the DL and it doesn't seem possible. Not without compromising my ability to tuck or moving the camera off the bike's center line. As far as the rider's perspective the BSD mount keeps the DL well out of your immediate line of sight.
Another thing that's missing that was present on the 1199 is logging of the throttle bodies. As everyone should know what your right wrist is doing and what the throttle bodies are doing frequently do not line up on a 1:1 basis. The 1199 had logging so you could see that difference. The V4's AIM configuration does not.
The AIM mount on my 1199 obscured my dash. Especially when I was tucked for a straight. I've been trying to figure out a way to position my camera mount so it captures the dash, my clip ons, and the DL and it doesn't seem possible. Not without compromising my ability to tuck or moving the camera off the bike's center line. As far as the rider's perspective the BSD mount keeps the DL well out of your immediate line of sight.
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This is my setup, doesn’t obstruct dash, I can still see it in full tuck. This is an actual aim mount I can dig up the part number if you want
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Thanks for the picture, however I think the V4S dash is different in size/shape and position, which bike are you riding (899/959..)?
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Sure, I understand. I suppose the BSD mount would do the job pretty well.
Is there a quick way to release the Solo 2 DL from its mount? Let's say if I stop and leave the bike un attended for some time, is it easy enough to carry with you without too much hassle (unplugging leads or unscrewing bolds)?
thanks
Marco
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