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Man I hope Cal doesn't sign for Ducati, I want him to do better and don't think it will happen at Ducati, Rossi will stay so he can eventually do a deal with Audi on 4 wheels..

And it's quite simple guys, Stoner can adapt/adjust his riding style to a given bike to get best out of it and Rossi knows how to get a bike adjusted to suit him and knows how develope a bike.... However it seems it's taking rather too long at Ducati, now we can all come up with our own ideas etc, but is it because Ducati are delaying on development as has been suggested...? Will we ever know?

Two completely different style of riders, let's face it the Yamaha that Lorenzo is riding wouldn't be no where near as good as it is now if it wasn't for Rossi....!?
 
Man I hope Cal doesn't sign for Ducati, I want him to do better and don't think it will happen at Ducati, Rossi will stay so he can eventually do a deal with Audi on 4 wheels..

And it's quite simple guys, Stoner can adapt/adjust his riding style to a given bike to get best out of it and Rossi knows how to get a bike adjusted to suit him and knows how develope a bike.... However it seems it's taking rather too long at Ducati, now we can all come up with our own ideas etc, but is it because Ducati are delaying on development as has been suggested...? Will we ever know?

Two completely different style of riders, let's face it the Yamaha that Lorenzo is riding wouldn't be no where near as good as it is now if it wasn't for Rossi....!?
I don't see how he can't sign with Ducati? Both Honda seats are now taken. Spies is close to another two year deal with Yamaha (which is where Crutch wants to be). Dovi is still under contract through 2013 with Tech 3 and Crutch's Tech 3 seat was promised to Smith. So his options are Ducati, another satellite team (are there any seats?) or Suzuki who is rumored to be back in 2013 but more like 2014. Clearly Ducati is his best option, which as we know screws Nicky! :mad:
 
you cant be serious, Rossi is a bust and the most over rated rider in moto gp. Nicky has outperformed him on the same exact bike. ducati has bent over backward to try and accommodate him and nothing. Let rossi go keep hayden and get clutchlow.

Yep... I agree.

Rossi is a lil' ..... and I think everyone would be happier with him at Yamaha... Especially his whining ....
 
Rossi's comments after the weekend: (sorry out of google translate from german article)
first:
Valentino Rossi: "We have a real problem"

© Ducati - Valentino Rossi at Laguna Seca this year had no luck
After a strong race at Mugello Ducati star Valentino Rossi came with high hopes at the site where he wrote in 2008 MotoGP history. But the trip to Laguna Seca should not pay off.

In qualifying, the Italians used to doing hard, but also in the race he could not follow Nicky Hayden still the Tech-3 pilots. Shortly before the end of the race crashed the "doctor" even - lying on position eight.

"I did not fight for the podium, but a crash at the end of the race is still disappointing, because I drove the whole race, like it was my first round. I had no quick rhythm at the time. When I came to the Corkscrew, I still lost the front, as the bike was upright and I touched the brake. It was like at Silverstone, "says Rossi.

"We have a real problem, which has shown once again today," he notes. "We have trouble getting the front tires to work. It was after the 30 rounds as new. Fortunately, I am fine, although there was a violent crash. The weekend was not particularly great. Now we have a short break, two important weeks and then we'll see how it will run at Indy. "


Second - and more interesting:

Valentino Rossi: "There are three options"

© Ducati - Valentino Rossi wants to decide in the coming week
Valentino Rossi is the crucial piece of the puzzle to the driver market for 2013. The two-year contract with the Italian Ducati ends after this season. So far, the "dream marriage" between the nine-time World Champion and Ducati a disaster. Audi is a new Ducati owners but very keen to keep the MotoGP superstar. This is to the Ingolstadt will be worth 17 million euros.

"That's not right. The offer, which you made to me, is below this value, which is true because the world situation is tense, "explains Rossi. "Besides, I had two bad years without good results. Therefore, it is normal that I earn less money "option two -. A return to the Yamaha factory team - would be for the Italians, from a financial point of view definitely less attractive. The paddock is three to five million euros of the question. For Rossi would be from the start of next season competitive again, even if he would most likely give up his crew.

Vs. money. Competitiveness

"On the one hand, I can fairly quickly be able to compete. On the other hand, I would need more time. Certainly the challenge is greater, with the Ducati to be successful. No one has so far managed to win with three different brands. That would be something special, "noted the success spoiled Italians, who is also aware of the danger:" It is certainly a big risk to stay with Ducati. "

"I have to decide soon and can not wait too long, because otherwise Dovizioso is very bad," joked the "Doc" and his compatriot missed it a swipe. Ducati CEO Gabriele del Torchio has traveled to Laguna Seca to negotiate with Rossi. It is penetrated, the Ducati boss is interested in a quick agreement, otherwise succumb the generous offer that we have made to the as yet unsuccessful Ducati pilot.

Great influence on Rossi's decision has certainly Audi. The takeover by Volkswagen subsidiary holds for Ducati both an opportunity and a risk not to be underestimated. The German carmaker itself looks back on a successful motor sports history, a persistent lack of success in MotoGP, but will certainly not look forever.

"But it's still very early to assess the impact of the influence of Audi. So I have to make a decision without knowing the exact situation, "said Rossi, who in addition to Ducati and Yamaha has yet another option for 2013. "I also have a third option. This is not a factory team, "he describes. "I have taken this option into consideration, but would remain in a factory team."

Rossi for the first time the number two?

Yamaha is without doubt the biggest enemy for Ducati. Even the inconsistencies between Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo are apparently no longer an issue between 2008 and 2010, both MotoGP exceptional talents were already teammates. "I had problems in the past with Jorge," admitted Rossi, the cause looked for it but the Japanese manufacturer, "I was mad at Yamaha because they follow me all the things I had done for them, to a very strong team-mates The side have made. That made me angry. "

"But I was more mad at Yamaha as Jorge on. Now the situation has changed. I think that Yamaha has made the right decision. It is no longer a problem, "said Rossi. Would be a problem but definitely the number-two status, should take the case of a return to Yamaha Rossi: "This is an important point to be kept in mind because I was the number one Ducati. When would be the Yamaha Lorenzo. I pull in my decision to definitely consider. "

Ducati has started regardless of Rossi's decision to act to set the course for 2013, committed by Nicky Hayden for the coming year. In addition, time and again spoken of Cal Crutchlow, who is said to have also received a contract offer. "I've been told that meets Cal's style of Ducati," commented Rossi.

Next week, the two pilots Moto2 Andrea Iannone and Scott Redding also allowed to make their talent. "I work very closely with the Ducati people about the future. You have asked me for advice for young drivers, "says Rossi. "We talked about Iannone and Redding, Cal is on the British hope. I think he has much potential."
 
yup, if an agreement can't be made on how and when changes are made to the bike, I think Rossi will leave, look how long it took them to change from the carbon fibre monocoque chassis to the aluminum one when they knew they had front end issues.

you would think it would be easier for a smaller company like ducati to have less red tape and major changes to be more on the fly, but that simply hasn't been the case. maybe it's a funding thing? who knows?
 
It's not about "red tape" it's about resources and engineering time, Ducati is a TINY miniscule little company compared to the Japanese companies. If Honda REALLY wants something done, they can throw 300 engineers at the problem in a week and get it done. Ducati can't. That's what some of the journalists are speculating about now, with Audi's backing, will they have additional engineering resources available for the team? I'm sure that's what Rossi wants, so if he's promised that kind of support I would imagine that could weigh on his decision. I think there's no doubt that Rossi WANTS to make the Ducati work, the Italian "dream team", and be the only rider to ever win on 3 different brands. Also, think of Rossi's post-racing career, if he was able to win on the Ducati and then retires, he would be the all-time Italian champion and Ducati brand ambassador for the rest of his life, living the Italian dream (and reaping in the huge financial rewards that would go with it). As opposed to living the post-racing life of a Yamaha brand ambassador, not quite the same cache as the other option, or as "marketable" in Italy or the rest of Europe. I'm sure that's all being considered by him and his managers.
 
It's not about "red tape" it's about resources and engineering time, Ducati is a TINY miniscule little company compared to the Japanese companies. If Honda REALLY wants something done, they can throw 300 engineers at the problem in a week and get it done. Ducati can't. That's what some of the journalists are speculating about now, with Audi's backing, will they have additional engineering resources available for the team? I'm sure that's what Rossi wants, so if he's promised that kind of support I would imagine that could weigh on his decision. I think there's no doubt that Rossi WANTS to make the Ducati work, the Italian "dream team", and be the only rider to ever win on 3 different brands. Also, think of Rossi's post-racing career, if he was able to win on the Ducati and then retires, he would be the all-time Italian champion and Ducati brand ambassador for the rest of his life, living the Italian dream (and reaping in the huge financial rewards that would go with it). As opposed to living the post-racing life of a Yamaha brand ambassador, not quite the same cache as the other option, or as "marketable" in Italy or the rest of Europe. I'm sure that's all being considered by him and his managers.

+1. Excellent observations.
 
agreed, but I still think Ducati is a little slow on the engineering issues and I don't think it's all about on the lack of personnel, maybe engineering brains.
They knew they had issues with the bike and front end feel from day one back in 09 on the new carbon fiber chassis and the lack of front end feel with it but did little or nothing about it to fix it. I mean really, the canards were almost laughable and I thought "really?" when they first put them on. it appeared like a last ditch hail mary because they didn't know what else to do, heck it took all the poking and proding in the world from Rossi to get them to switch from carbon fiber to aluminum.

I also think some of it has to do with the tire manufacturing. they are usually really, really, good. or really, REALLY, bad.



It's not about "red tape" it's about resources and engineering time, Ducati is a TINY miniscule little company compared to the Japanese companies. If Honda REALLY wants something done, they can throw 300 engineers at the problem in a week and get it done. Ducati can't. That's what some of the journalists are speculating about now, with Audi's backing, will they have additional engineering resources available for the team? I'm sure that's what Rossi wants, so if he's promised that kind of support I would imagine that could weigh on his decision. I think there's no doubt that Rossi WANTS to make the Ducati work, the Italian "dream team", and be the only rider to ever win on 3 different brands. Also, think of Rossi's post-racing career, if he was able to win on the Ducati and then retires, he would be the all-time Italian champion and Ducati brand ambassador for the rest of his life, living the Italian dream (and reaping in the huge financial rewards that would go with it). As opposed to living the post-racing life of a Yamaha brand ambassador, not quite the same cache as the other option, or as "marketable" in Italy or the rest of Europe. I'm sure that's all being considered by him and his managers.
 
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Haha, I can remember seeing the canards and thinking "great, now at least he wont take off!" haha

Its a real shame Ducati can't get Hayden and Rossi a bike to fight with. You've got the most motivated, great personality rider that never says a bad thing about his bike or team in Hayden, and the Italian Dream team on the other hand.

I sure hope Audi tosses as much money as they can at this project! But like Rossi once said....Audi makes Cars not Motorcycles. Can car engineers cross into the motorcycle world? I think we are about to find out next year even if Rossi isnt around.

agreed, but I still think Ducati is a little slow on the engineering issues and I don't think it's all about on the lack of personnel, maybe engineering brains.
They knew they had issues with the bike and front end feel from day one back in 09 on the new carbon fiber chassis and the lack of front end feel with it but did little or nothing about it to fix it. I mean really, the canards were almost laughable and I thought "really?" when they first put them on. it appeared like a last ditch hail mary because they didn't know what else to do, heck it took all the poking and proding in the world from Rossi to get them to switch from carbon fiber to aluminum.

I also think some of it has to do with the tire manufacturing. they are usually really, really, good. or really, REALLY, bad.
 
I'm pretty sure Kenny Roberts Sr. had car guys (F1 guys) working on his KR project and that didn't go too well. I think the way a bike works is more akin to an airplane than it is a car. Maybe they need aero engineers.
 
I saw Rossi after both crashes at Laguna Seca and he looked pissed and fed up. I think he'll be going back to Yamaha. I read recenly he said he'll make his decision before the Indy GP.
 
the only time it is okay for there to be two guys on a bike in the US. :D

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It's not about "red tape" it's about resources and engineering time, Ducati is a TINY miniscule little company compared to the Japanese companies. If Honda REALLY wants something done, they can throw 300 engineers at the problem in a week and get it done. Ducati can't. That's what some of the journalists are speculating about now, with Audi's backing, will they have additional engineering resources available for the team? I'm sure that's what Rossi wants, so if he's promised that kind of support I would imagine that could weigh on his decision. I think there's no doubt that Rossi WANTS to make the Ducati work, the Italian "dream team", and be the only rider to ever win on 3 different brands. Also, think of Rossi's post-racing career, if he was able to win on the Ducati and then retires, he would be the all-time Italian champion and Ducati brand ambassador for the rest of his life, living the Italian dream (and reaping in the huge financial rewards that would go with it). As opposed to living the post-racing life of a Yamaha brand ambassador, not quite the same cache as the other option, or as "marketable" in Italy or the rest of Europe. I'm sure that's all being considered by him and his managers.

+1 ! Good points. Hope Rossi and Presiozo read it and act accordingly ;)
 

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