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i dont see any mention of rossi there just a comparison of 1 and 2 rider for a bike that has been winning with a rider that needs special circumstances to win. it was about jlo not the has been
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you sir, are hilarious .
you sir, are hilarious .
Trying to get this thread back on track....
Regardless of the riders, it's great to see Ducati on the podium again. Fun race to watch & give props to the Ducati team for getting themselves back in this position.
Hell, I want them to win the MotoGP title next year (I don't care what rider), so they release another Desmo.
What other manufacture is going to do this?
Regardless of the riders, it's great to see Ducati on the podium again. Fun race to watch & give props to the Ducati team for getting themselves back in this position.
Hell, I want them to win the MotoGP title next year (I don't care what rider), so they release another Desmo.
What other manufacture is going to do this?
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Yes, a special set of circumstances to win. He needs:
1. A bike where he can properly feel the front end.
2. A tire that gives him the traction and confidence for his style.
3. His head on straight.
Of all the top riders Lorenzo is by far the streakiest. On his day he can walk away from everyone. Not on his day and he can finish 10th or 15th like he did at Assen and the Sachshenring this year. You don't see that kind of drop-off from the other top riders - a bad day for Marquez is 5th.
Yamaha has given Lorenzo a bike that suits his style for years now and he's been fast on it. Bridgestone's front suited his style down to the ground. The Michelin front less so. Lorenzo is not as able to change his style as Marquez is, not as adaptable as Stoner either.
So yes, Lorenzo requires a special set of circumstances to win. Those circumstances have been largely provided by Yamaha and Bridgestone over the years. Will they continue to be provided by Ducati and Michelin? We'll have to see. The Michelin front works in a much narrower temp range than the Bridgestone front does which causes him problems. And like I previously noted, he has proven less adaptable to changes than some of his competitors.
I don't have any fanboy-ism or hater-ism left in MotoGP. My favorite rider died in 2011. No one has come along that I like as much. I like to watch all these guys ride and I can appreciate what they do on a bike - every one of them. They're all different and they all have different strengths - and weaknesses. When Lorenzo is on, he's pretty much unbeatable. Marquez, Pedrosa,they all get left behind. But he isn't always on. Which is actually fascinating to me. The same way Marquez is fascinating because he is soooo adaptable to changing situations.
It's amazing how you take two words and turn them into something I didn't say. Where did I deny Lorenzo respect? Where did I say he was boring and where did I say I didn't like him? You made all that .... up on your own. It's like you have your own "jump to conclusions" mat on the floor, and every ....... square says "act like an ......".
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first i was speaking in general terms about people that find him boring or not like him find where i said you said that you cant because i didnt. the tire its funny how the front michilin that jorge and danny liked is now gone isnt it? conspiracy theory? there was never a problem with the fronts it was the rear tires that exploded. why ? some believe its because they need JLO not to do well and it will make some other guy finish better.
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now that thats out of the way i will address each aspect of your comments seperatly
1 what rider doesnt want the proper front end feel can you name one that does well without front end feel didnt think so
2 lets not talk tires as there is a certain racer that had tire advantages his entire carreer and threatened to quit if he didnt get his own and they didnt even give his teamate the same tire
3 i think his head is on straight he is second and won the championship last year.
dont you mean JLO devolped the winning bike for years? only been winning on it since 2010.
you dont always have to be on to win the title you have to be on more than your rivals and jlo obviously has been on as he wont the title last year and is in second right now.
im not even a jlo fan but he should be the number 1 rider in his garage and the other guy should be leaving but do what you have to do jlo
1 what rider doesnt want the proper front end feel can you name one that does well without front end feel didnt think so
2 lets not talk tires as there is a certain racer that had tire advantages his entire carreer and threatened to quit if he didnt get his own and they didnt even give his teamate the same tire
3 i think his head is on straight he is second and won the championship last year.
dont you mean JLO devolped the winning bike for years? only been winning on it since 2010.
you dont always have to be on to win the title you have to be on more than your rivals and jlo obviously has been on as he wont the title last year and is in second right now.
im not even a jlo fan but he should be the number 1 rider in his garage and the other guy should be leaving but do what you have to do jlo
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see this forum has triggers
1 bmw mention the bmw and ducati people lose their freakin mind
2 rossi but with the bmw its all opinion with rossi there are many facts that fanboys dont want to believe.
anyway enjoy im going to lunch
read the doctored series its well worth it.
1 bmw mention the bmw and ducati people lose their freakin mind
2 rossi but with the bmw its all opinion with rossi there are many facts that fanboys dont want to believe.
anyway enjoy im going to lunch
read the doctored series its well worth it.
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In response to my post, you said:
In no way is that speaking in general. See, when you respond to somebody and say "you" that means you're talking about that person in particular. So you said it, right ....... there.
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i like you bolding the word you but it doesnt change what i was talking about cause you made it bold (see you did it so it means you) i wrote you when i said you i ment you people . as in you people may not like jlo. you people may think he is boring as is said through out the forum. if you didnt understand me thats fine but since you (specific person (you) never said he was boring and never said you didnt respect him how could i possibly mean you? see i cant because you never said those things. you have to take the entire context its called reading comprehension. so go back and bold some more words it wont change what i ment and i know what i ment i wrote it.
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1. Casey Stoner. Marc Marquez.
2. Rossi's history with tires has nothing to do with Lorenzo and I've never mentioned Rossi.
3. That's your opinion. Mine is that it isn't always. Lorenzo is streaky and always has been.
4. Yamaha developed the bike. Lorenzo's (and any riders) input really amounts to "yes", "no", "better" or "worse".
5. This is obvious. He still barely beat an aging Rossi last year and while second this year is 43 points behind Marquez. He hasn't been on more than Marquez and he's on a better bike.
6. Irrelevant and bears no relation to any point I was making.
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I didn't alter your quote other than bolding the word you. If you meant "you people" then you should write "you people". You're the one changing what you're talking about. You meant me personally, I called you on it, and now you're too much of a pussy to stand behind your words.
If you're not articulate enough to clearly convey the thoughts in your head then maybe you should rethink expressing them. Because you come off as an .......
So who do you mean by "you people"?
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marks an antagonist , but In a strange way once you let go of your anger He becomes entertaining.
Hey mark one day its record cold the next day its record hot outside what is causing this -
marks answer: fucini rossi. that ....... and all his day-glow polar bear killing looser friends.
subject : wow Ducati won its first motogp in a long time that is awesome .
marks interjects : fricking rossi fans suck Rossi hasn't won a championship since 09 he hasn't done anything at all but rake in tons of money for doing nothing he has no talent I could beat him with a kick-n-go scooter
Hey mark one day its record cold the next day its record hot outside what is causing this -
marks answer: fucini rossi. that ....... and all his day-glow polar bear killing looser friends.
subject : wow Ducati won its first motogp in a long time that is awesome .
marks interjects : fricking rossi fans suck Rossi hasn't won a championship since 09 he hasn't done anything at all but rake in tons of money for doing nothing he has no talent I could beat him with a kick-n-go scooter
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