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that's really odd about the 1098 1199 comparo.

Are you using the comfort seat? Tho I never tried as I'm happy with the stock seat, I'd have real concerns about the increased height of the comfort seat which I would think would cause the seating position to be even less comfortable?
Just speculation on my part.


Castor Troy said:
Positioning might be a factor, will try new things when I get her back today. UpMap was loaded when it was sitting on the showroom floor, dealer made sure of that. The feel is VERY distinct indeed and I like it:D. However, that damn 1098 is so compliant that it baffled me. I can take a video of this bike and show everyone the comparison between the two in behavior while in idle. It is a vast difference:eek:
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Capt CF said:
It's only your right hand/wrist that is experiencing this issue? Are you only getting it on longer highway hauls and not in the twisties?
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Yeah right wrist only and occasionally my right foot (very rarely)...Yeah on highways only since I keep a steady throttle at 75mphs everywhere I go. I noticed that RPMs are between 3 and 4 when it usually happens. In twisties it never happens since my wrist is in constant on-off motion.
 
zvez said:
that's really odd about the 1098 1199 comparo.

Are you using the comfort seat? Tho I never tried as I'm happy with the stock seat, I'd have real concerns about the increased height of the comfort seat which I would think would cause the seating position to be even less comfortable?
Just speculation on my part.
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Yes, I am indeed using a Comfort seat. Actually I had it put on when i took delivery of Matilda, stock seat resides in a box. I shall try it to compare the two but everyone that I have spoken to, advised against the stock seat due to stiffness of it.
 
Castor Troy said:
Yeah right wrist only and occasionally my right foot (very rarely)...Yeah on highways only since I keep a steady throttle at 75mphs everywhere I go. I noticed that RPMs are between 3 and 4 when it usually happens. In twisties it never happens since my wrist is in constant on-off motion.
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I have had problems with long range fatigue on a couple of different bikes and that's sort of what I chalked it up to - long range, not moving around at all on the seat, never changing hand position or foot position, etc. etc. I have tried to stay more active on the bike when I get in those long, boring, droning along, "have to get from point a to point b" rides and have started experimenting with a cramp buster for the throttle after a dude over on .ms was talking about them in Antihero's epic ride thread. I found one solution that I like better though. Last time I had to make one of these rides (about an hour or an hour and a half on straight highway) I did some playing around on Google maps and figured out a way to do the same ride, but taking twisties the whole way. It took a bit longer, but the ear to ear grinning was worth it. I bet if I take that route a few more times I can cut the time down too. :D

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Mmmmh, definitely have another go with the stock seat.

I have Rizoma pegs, standard seat and around the same height as you. I find the 1199 super comfy, like touring comfort.

Thing is, after getting measured up for a road cycle, I know that I'm slightly taller in the upper body and have longer reach, that is typical for my height.

I think this has a lot to do with it - I don't even touch the tank.

So, how close do you find yourself in relation to the tank?

Lastly, yes, bent arms are definitely best :)
 
Xbox said:
Mmmmh, definitely have another go with the stock seat.

I have Rizoma pegs, standard seat and around the same height as you. I find the 1199 super comfy, like touring comfort.

Thing is, after getting measured up for a road cycle, I know that I'm slightly taller in the upper body and have longer reach, that is typical for my height.

I think this has a lot to do with it - I don't even touch the tank.

So, how close do you find yourself in relation to the tank?

Lastly, yes, bent arms are definitely best :)
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I am also a cyclist and it is interesting that they don't have the same thing as a bike fitting for motorcycles. Other than replacing the stock seat on my road bike a professional bike fitting was the best money I ever spent.
 
Capt CF said:
I have had problems with long range fatigue on a couple of different bikes and that's sort of what I chalked it up to - long range, not moving around at all on the seat, never changing hand position or foot position, etc. etc. I have tried to stay more active on the bike when I get in those long, boring, droning along, "have to get from point a to point b" rides and have started experimenting with a cramp buster for the throttle after a dude over on .ms was talking about them in Antihero's epic ride thread. I found one solution that I like better though. Last time I had to make one of these rides (about an hour or an hour and a half on straight highway) I did some playing around on Google maps and figured out a way to do the same ride, but taking twisties the whole way. It took a bit longer, but the ear to ear grinning was worth it. I bet if I take that route a few more times I can cut the time down too. :D
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Hmmmm. How effective is that thing? I went on their website and saw all the dif varient of it. Def interesting looking device.
Xbox said:
Mmmmh, definitely have another go with the stock seat.

I have Rizoma pegs, standard seat and around the same height as you. I find the 1199 super comfy, like touring comfort.

Thing is, after getting measured up for a road cycle, I know that I'm slightly taller in the upper body and have longer reach, that is typical for my height.

I think this has a lot to do with it - I don't even touch the tank.

So, how close do you find yourself in relation to the tank?

Lastly, yes, bent arms are definitely best :)
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I grip the tank with my legs if i am not cruising. On the highway, I try to relax my legs as much as possible but i still find myself having to support my arms. I touch the tank in town but not on the highway.
 
Castor Troy said:
Hmmmm. How effective is that thing? I went on their website and saw all the dif varient of it. Def interesting looking device.
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I don't have enough miles on it yet to comment I don't think, but I'll let you know once I get it out a few times (it stores nicely under the seat btw). I have learned NOT to lean on it in race mode though.
 
Castor Troy said:
^What happened?
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It's a funny device. It's just a loop of plastic (you could make one easy enough) that tightens on the grip if you push down on it so the idea is you rotate it clockwise around the grip until you get it where you want it so you can just lightly rest your hand on the grip and the pressure from your palm on the crampbuster keeps your throttle steady and you maintain a set speed. When you get off the highway into the twisties I found it got in my way and was too easy to accidentally lean on or press against resulting in speed increases that weren't expected. :)

I chalked it up to me just not having enough miles on it yet. I don't plan to keep it on the bike though. I'll prob use it as a tool when I want to go somewhere to get to the good roads and then take it off and stow it before I hit the fun stuff.
 
Capt CF said:
It's a funny device. It's just a loop of plastic (you could make one easy enough) that tightens on the grip if you push down on it so the idea is you rotate it clockwise around the grip until you get it where you want it so you can just lightly rest your hand on the grip and the pressure from your palm on the crampbuster keeps your throttle steady and you maintain a set speed. When you get off the highway into the twisties I found it got in my way and was too easy to accidentally lean on or press against resulting in speed increases that weren't expected. :)

I chalked it up to me just not having enough miles on it yet. I don't plan to keep it on the bike though. I'll prob use it as a tool when I want to go somewhere to get to the good roads and then take it off and stow it before I hit the fun stuff.
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Sorry but I lol'd a little. I am willing to try and just keep it in the trunk or jacket pocket till I get on the highway.
 
I've used the cramp buster for years, only for long trips, ie highway miles where riding at a sustained speed. It works very well as it allows you to actuate the throttle with your palm, allowing you to change positions on the throttle without cutting speed (tho it takes a bit of practice). Very handy for long trips.

Also, you might consider seeing a doc to evaluate your right wrist for carpal tunnel syndrome. If you've got it, surgery is a very easy fix.

Guess I've got a hard ass as I've always stuck with the stock seats on all my bikes with no ill effects.


Castor Troy said:
Hmmmm. How effective is that thing? I went on their website and saw all the dif varient of it. Def interesting looking device.


I grip the tank with my legs if i am not cruising. On the highway, I try to relax my legs as much as possible but i still find myself having to support my arms. I touch the tank in town but not on the highway.
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What ever it's worth, I thought I'd weigh in. The first thing that came to mind since it is you're right hand was something isn't secured tight enough. I'm sure you do, but check your tire pressure and make sure the rim is balanced. It's funny I'm 5'11" and the position of the comfort seat c/t the stocker was night and day more comfortable, aside from the slippery surface the position was better for me. Maybe look into Luimoto seat covers. I agree with new grips too.

I also thought about what ZVEZ wrote, carpel tunnel syndrome. What kind of work do you do or hobbies? Do you have the same wrist/hand problem doing anything else? I guess if all else fails it is something to think about. It wouldn't explain your right foot issues though. There are therapies to consider before surgery too, if you have surgery you won't be able to ride (or I should say shouldn't ride) for 6-8 weeks or the benefits of the surgery will be lost. Also, neck/cervical issues can manifest as wrist/hand pain or weakness.

I'm sure you'll get it figured out.
 
A couple of things come to mind.

  1. the comfort seat could be making you sit higher than on your previous bike, thereboy putting more weight on your wrists, or
  2. your riding position is not letting your wrist align with your forearm. Although there is not much movement given on the levers, try loosening off the lever mounts and twisting them to allow your wrist to straighten some more (or change the angle of your upper body which will have the same effect).
I used to have problems on my CBRs until I "fitted" the levers (and foot levers to my wrist / foot angle.

I also know I will have a problem for the first few rides after a long lay off from the bike with my right shoulder. I have no idea why but after a few rides my body adapts / relaxes and all is well.
 
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Castor Troy said:
Hey boys, sorry for another one of "those" threads but I need some pointers/tips.

1) Right wrist vibrations (i know that it has been addressed). On the S1KRR, I won that battle with Motovation 300g bar end w/ Driven gel grips. I searched and searched here, only to find the "let go of the death grip" answer. Is that it? PS. Does anyone have the heavy Motovation or T-Meister ends? Any info would help:) I wear RS-Taichi EVO gloves, should I try gloves with more palm padding?

2) I did a 130 mile quick ride out of town yesterday, only to find my thighs on fire. I never been this sore in my life after two hours in the saddle. Is it the comfort seat causing it? Riding position crapping out on me?

3) I don't mind the heat :D...I am a sick pup like that.


PS. Pani is in for her 1st service right now and I got a '08 1098 as a loaner, Holy Moly what a smooth bike that it is in comparison. Not easy to ride but a lot more well behaved on the street, not as raw. No heat. No vibrations. No stalling drama :(
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I found the 1098 to be a totally different bike to the 1199. The 1098 is a smooth bike lovely to ride - however, quite a few differences than the 1199.

My 1098 has a full Termi with no silencers and still the 1199 with a full Termi and silencers is louder. From the 1098, I really like how Ducati has evolved. Watch it though, you may get the craving to add a 1098 to your stable as well :D

I really love both the 1098 and 1199.

BTW Jet hot coating the end cans on the Termi makes it louder.
 
Hold on Lads, hold on a second here. I just got my bike back and some sort of witchcraft was performed there.

1) Initially bike didn't accept UpMap, noone knew...I took delivery of it. Today, it accepted it and Tech said there was some update to the UpMap recently and that my bike had factory original map in it.

2) Had Tech snake skin pads applied to the tank so I couldn't grip with my legs, had to suffer on the way home. No new techniques have been tried. Tomorrow I will attempt new things.

3) Rizoma rearsets are on and they make shifting lovely, not much for comfort though.

4) Bike seems to run better overall. Temp didn't spike during brief stops, it used to gain degrees rather rapidly.

5) Vibrations smoothed out a little but I still ordered Domino grips and heavier bar ends.

6) I am not even gonna talk about how much better it scoots. We all know.
 
sounds very promising!

Castor Troy said:
Hold on Lads, hold on a second here. I just got my bike back and some sort of witchcraft was performed there.

1) Initially bike didn't accept UpMap, noone knew...I took delivery of it. Today, it accepted it and Tech said there was some update to the UpMap recently and that my bike had factory original map in it.

2) Had Tech snake skin pads applied to the tank so I couldn't grip with my legs, had to suffer on the way home. No new techniques have been tried. Tomorrow I will attempt new things.

3) Rizoma rearsets are on and they make shifting lovely, not much for comfort though.

4) Bike seems to run better overall. Temp didn't spike during brief stops, it used to gain degrees rather rapidly.

5) Vibrations smoothed out a little but I still ordered Domino grips and heavier bar ends.

6) I am not even gonna talk about how much better it scoots. We all know.
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Marcbc said:
Although there is not much movement given on the levers, try loosening off the lever mounts and twisting them to allow your wrist to straighten some more (or change the angle of your upper body which will have the same effect).
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Unfortunately both the brake and clutch brackets are seated on the handlebars, you can't adjust them. PITA, one of the first things I tried. Not sure if its been mentioned already but you could always try a heavier bar end to reduce vibration.
 

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