Need Help Please

Hey I'm in the Market on a ducati I'm just stuck on what to get tho. My dealer couple has 2 2011 1198 one with 1200 miles another with 7k and then they have 2 new 2012 1199 one s model with abs and another base with abs. Then they have a 13 s none abs and a base 14 well u know they come with everything now . So I have ridden Yamaha all my life and have always wanted a duc and just wanted yalls opinion on what to get . Are there any problems with the 12s and 13 that I should just skip and just go to a 14 or save the money and get a 12 . If I do get a 12 how much off you think I should pay on one since it's a 2 yr old bike now . Or is there a big difference In the 1198 and 1199. Are the 1199 having a lot of issues ? So like u all can see I'm split in decisions. I'm not.going to track the bike it will be for pleasure use and.street . So please help with everyone opinions .
Thanks

Do it.

My 12 has had a lot of issues...been in the shop a lot all under warranty. It's like a complicated relationship for me. When its good...my lord..its good. When its bad, It's bad. Good out weighs the bad for me by long shot.

Bad
-starter went bad
-turn signals and horn failed
-forks went bad
-oil leak
-hardstart issue
-dash fogged
-lost a ton of bolts

Good
-front wheel comes up in almost every gear

Go with the 99 series it is a better handling and more controllable bike than the 98 series bikes are.
As long as the bikes still come with a two year warranty the year is not that big of an issue, if they don't then go with the 2013.
My 2013 has 5K miles on the clock and had no issues whatsoever.

98 series is like a torture rack compared to the 1199.


I have had no issues with my bike, love it.

Best bike I have ever had.

so on the 99 series are you having any heat issues where they are melting the fairings ? or glitches or anything on the 12s? if they have had problems with other 12 would they go ahead and update the ones they havent sold yet? and the heat shields from the exhaust on the 12 were a problem wouod they already ahve this fixed before i buy? if i get a 12 how much off u think i should get off one thats 2 yrs old? thanks for the prompt response guys. i cant wait to get on one..

Buy the one you like"¦"¦"¦...1199 that is. I have 2012 1199 base with abs 22000ks on it the biggest issue was the valve cover gaskets where leaking very minor and a couple other things very small compared the way the bike rides,you never go back to that Yamaha.I will buy another ducati, After riding R1s for the past 8 years. 1199 makes the r1 feel like it was a tank on the roads I ride on

I went with a "leftover" 2012 last spring. I've had zero issues with it. If you go that route, just make sure all the updates have been completed and then hit em with a lowball offer. They should be willing to move before their new stock comes in. Good luck!

Chunter3775 said:

so on the 99 series are you having any heat issues where they are melting the fairings ? or glitches or anything on the 12s? if they have had problems with other 12 would they go ahead and update the ones they havent sold yet? and the heat shields from the exhaust on the 12 were a problem wouod they already ahve this fixed before i buy? if i get a 12 how much off u think i should get off one thats 2 yrs old? thanks for the prompt response guys. i cant wait to get on one..

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Not melting anything yet

All updates are covered under warranty including the updated heat shields.

So dealer want to do this to get payed more from Ducati.


Avoid 12's. there is reason why they are still sitting on them. They wont work with people. That's how I found turn2 to be in Or, there sitting on old units because of their bad business practices.

so just go ahead and go with the base 14 pay a lil more and not have to worry about the old units or the problems they have had .. ???

Chunter3775 said:

so just go ahead and go with the base 14 pay a lil more and not have to worry about the old units or the problems they have had .. ???

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I would look at a 12 unsold, there is a reason.

Now a 13 on the other hand is fair game.



As far as problems, most have been weeded out. [other then issues most any bike will have] 12,13,14 are NOW all the same units, less maybe a peep hole in a fairing the 12 doesn't have.

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so just go ahead and go with the base 14 pay a lil more and not have to worry about the old units or the problems they have had .. ???

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I don't like the base shocks or rims, despite fixes, many still do have issues with the fronts shocks.

Also if you pay a bit more for a 14 it will be worth more later down the road when/if you sell it

I have a 12 S and am happy with it so far. Done 6000kms, had the heatshield upgrade for free under warranty. Turn signal issue (not turning off) was fixed under warranty as well. Definitely enjoying the lightweight wheels, ohlins (never had a better-suspended bike before, not even racetech revalving in the 848 showa), and the electronic suspension setup is definitely a practicality.

8k miles and counting on my base '12 with no problems. Would buy another '12 base in a heartbeat and not think twice about it.

I've owned an 1198 and it is a tremendous machine. But I'd still get the 2014 1199. A very different bike and totally amazing in every respect.

Just do it. I had a 2009 Crossplane R1 that was upgraded with Ohlins FGRT808 forks, TTX Mk2 shock, Bazzaz Z-Fi TC, etc., and it still wasn't anywhere near a base 1199, performance-wise.

Like slnvail, I bought a leftover 2012 base (non-ABS) in April 2013. I paid $16,300 for it, and Ducati USA was running a promotion with cheap financing and 6 months of payments pre-paid. I took advantage of that so got my 1199 for about what a new ZX-10R cost.

As was also mentioned, the only issue with the base models seems to be the Marzocchi fork cartridges going bad. Supposedly there has been a fix and replacement parts are different than what came in the 12's. The other difference with 12's is no oil sight glass hole in the fairing. I'll repeat it again, make sure that a 2012 model you're considering has all the updates completed (easily looked up by any Ducati dealer via the VIN). Warranty is strongly recommended.

Which model you choose after that depends on what you want out of your bike. I could have bought an S but wanted to build the bike to my specs and frankly didn't like the idea of first-gen electronic Ohlins suspension. I replaced my fork cartridges with Italian Bitubo gas cartridges and a matching Bitubo race shock. I also got Rotobox RBX2 carbon fiber wheels, the lightest wheels made by a good margin. Between those two upgrades and what I bought the bike for, I still spent less than buying an S model, but IMHO have much better kit.

Since you said you don't plan on tracking the bike, IMHO I would steer you towards the leftover 2012, offer them $15,500 (or $16,000 if it has ABS) and see if Ducati has any factory promotions. Stay with the OEM Marzocchi forks as they are quite good (but inspect them often in case you got a bad set that needs to be replaced with the new cartridges under warranty) and get an Ohlins TTX Mk2 shock for around $1,100. If you like exhausts noise - and with the Superquadro V-Twin how could you not - one of our moderators has a stock-exhuast mod service that makes the bike sound utterly glorious.

I'm not going to lie and say the bike has been as trouble-free as my R1 (remember the cam-chain tension PITA?) or even my MV Agusta F4 1000R was, but everything was covered by warranty and recalls, and it never has left me stranded. Coming up on 7,500 miles and it seriously is the best sportbike I've ever owned after 24 years and almost as many bikes.

Charliem90 said:

8k miles and counting on my base '12 with no problems. Would buy another '12 base in a heartbeat and not think twice about it.

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10k miles here on an early 12 base.

put it to hard use though, 6 trackdays ( last one had the valve covers leaking) ..

all fixed under warranty so no complaints here.


awesome machine.

the 10/1198 are tractors and different kinds of animals but i would go with a 99 again for sure.

do it.

I bought a base January last year, it is a late 2012, I bought the base model because it is the lightest and simplest of all of them, with the same power. I have been riding since the mid 60's I do not want or need ABS or traction control, or the weight they add. When I can't work the brakes and throttle myself properly I will stop riding.
My bike has been trouble free and a blast to ride, it's much faster than my AMA Superbike was that I raced at Daytona in 1980, and it's street legal.Steve

I started with a 1098 base, which I traded in on a 1198s after a couple of years. I could tell it was a step up driving it off the lot. After that I got a 1199s Tri, and that was even a better step-up.

The 1199s is faster, smoother and more comfortable. I've tracked all three, and the 1199s is much easier to ride on the track, more like a six-hundred.

I've had no problems with my '12 Tri of any consequence.

My '2012 base has exceeded it's sale price in warranty claims, that being said I have never spent a weekend without the bike and never did a penny change hands in all of this.

Of course your dealer has a lot to do with that but after 18k km's, mine is up for sale and it will be a Panigale for sure, either a leftover '13 tri or a '14 base. Been looking at a '13 R with 500 miles, too.

This bike rocks and whatever you do, get one, no matter what model or year.