New RSV4 RF

Chaotic said:

If that includes the price of the bike, that is really cheap. Like, REALLY cheap. You can take a damn GSX-R1000 and by the time you get it up to the limit of SS specifications you will have damn near $30k in it.

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It does include the bikes, see this link for the options and prices.

https://service.piaggiogroup.com/public/racing/scheda.asp?SubPath1=01_Products/00_full%20bike&Contafile=1

manjunathbs said:

Can you tell us your source? I thought folks in apriliaforum quoted the SBK spec to be about 60K+.

As far as I understood, the SBK spec in addition to same chassis has
a. ECU & data acquisition - north of 10K
b. Swingarm - 6K+
c. SBK Pistons + Cams + Evo 3 exhaust - 10K+
d. Different Shock to facilitate easy pull out - 2K+
e. Bigger tank
f. Different wheels

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"SBK" spec appears to be built to AMA rules, not WSBK rules. It's option #3 on the price list above. The option #4 bike is referred to as WSBK. Again, all the info and pricing is above.

The one knock on the RSV4 was it lack of power.

Put 230 horsepower to the rear wheel to a bike is that many say is the best handling liter out there, and you have something very hard to beat.

I love my RSV4 Factory, and it does handle like a 600. However it also has the power like a 600 compared to my R.

SOULRIDER said:

The one knock on the RSV4 was it lack of power.

Put 230 horsepower to the rear wheel to a bike is that many say is the best handling liter out there, and you have something very hard to beat.

I love my RSV4 Factory, and it does handle like a 600. However it also has the power like a 600 compared to my R.

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I love mine too but I must have got one with more power than yours cause I've passed an R

Macattack said:

IMO it does not surprise me that ducati has not done this.
we tend to be overly critical.
example . a few threads ago someone was posting reviews of a track tire. the biggest complaint from the reviewer was that the tires did not last two track days. basically the tire was completely dismissed because it did not last two track days on a bike with 200hp -even though it was really good in the grip and feel department.
we are a fickle lot and wait till you see the maintenance schedule for the APE.

If ducati built a track bike and said it needs total engine rebuild after xxxx miles this crowd would freak the hell out.

Ive seen a few aprilia track bikes for sale sans motor because the owners didn't know they needed 5k worth of piston valve springs bearings and labor every few thousand miles.
public perception of the aprilia is they blow up . truth is they don't blow up if your willing to throw money at them like charlie sheen to a hooker . then they seem to keep going fine.

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youngR said:

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LOL you know someone is saying right now that the standard apriler is slow and that 230hp is the bare minimum needed for a track bike

SOULRIDER said:

The one knock on the RSV4 was it lack of power.

Put 230 horsepower to the rear wheel to a bike is that many say is the best handling liter out there, and you have something very hard to beat.

I love my RSV4 Factory, and it does handle like a 600. However it also has the power like a 600 compared to my R.

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Complaints on the RSV4

1. Lack of power.

For track days, a 2001 GSXR is fine. But when racing, if you have a 25hp deficit you will be in for a lot of headaches. Especially when your bike is heavy as ..... Which leads me to the next complaint...

2. It is heavy.

And I mean really heavy. All of the weight is in the motor and frame, so even in race trim it is a heavy pig. It feels like a Hayabusa compared to the Panigale. I am fairly big and strong guy and pushing it up into the toy hauler was a ......

3. Fuel delivery.

Instead of having the injectors that overlap each other, on the RSV4 at around 7.5-8k the Lower injectors stop and the Upper injectors take over. But there is a huge lull/dip when that happens. And it happens right as you are leaned over and driving hard coming off apex. It is enough that it will upset the chassis and affect your line. It is such a ........ system and cant be overcome without Magneti/Motec electronics.

And to me, the last 2 are deal breakers. I can fix power, that is easy. But you cant do anything about the obnoxiously heavy frame and swingarm. And I don't want to spend $10k just to remove a dip in the fuel.

This RF is nice and I like that they are offering race bike options from the OEM. But IMO this extra power and .... is just a bandaid. To make the bike competitive to "normal" guys in SSTK trim, the bike needs to lose 40lbs and they need to fix the injector setup.

Aside from those things, the bike is awesome. Great ergos, great electronics, great brakes and the way the V4 puts the power down is perfect.

Chaotic said:

This RF is nice and I like that they are offering race bike options from the OEM. But IMO this extra power and .... is just a bandaid. To make the bike competitive to "normal" guys in SSTK trim, the bike needs to lose 40lbs and they need to fix the injector setup.

Aside from those things, the bike is awesome. Great ergos, great electronics, great brakes and the way the V4 puts the power down is perfect.

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SSTK option (the 32,500 one) has the APX2 electronics. That's the full ticket package that gets rid of the dip issue. That's the one thing that surprises me most about the pricing on that. Same build they used in World SSTK.

Totally agreed on the weight. Didn't stop them from dominating SSTK this year though on the world stage. Curious what Aprilia does for the next generation bike, they've been refining this one since 2009, only a year newer than everyone's favorite CBR. Fun times for motorcycle enthusiasts though. The new rules package really is benefiting the consumer.

Except for Honda. They argue they need all the electronics they can get in Moto GP for development reasons. Then state even in the alleged refresh of electronics for the CBR that street riders don't need advanced electronics.