New SL for 2017 ?

Rich1199 said:

That's exactly what I thought!!

I hear also the new SL will have the same paint job too as the current SL

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endodoc said:

Phl is pretty close. 1299. All CF bodywork. BST is making the wheels. Ducati is/was working on a CF frame but I was told that it was not going so well. BST is not making the swingarm but Ducati has or is toying with a CF version. THe motor on this bike is not a V4. It is rumored to have a different casting to the engine case but i do not think so. They are going to struggle to make any more power outside of the ECU and exhaust. If they mod the motor in the traditional way which is what I did (Fox crank, Carrillo rods, pistons, Ti valves, flow and match the heads etc) they can get 225 hp out of it and spin it up a bit more as the crank and rod weight reduction is significant. If they are decent about it (they are not going to be) they would go to the Corse shelves and slap some decent pieces on there. They would use the Brembo EVO stuff and give you real SB forks. Typically they are going to give you some cool stuff and then .... the bed by not finishing what they started (stock brakes on the Desmo etc comes to mind) The biggest issue with these builds is that they overcharge the .... out of you by the perception that your getting an unobtainium bike when in reality, you can duplicate the bike for a lot less $$ and get better parts. That's if your really after the "bike". If your after what you perceive is a collectors piece because of the numbering, then go for it. Just remember all the Desmo's that sold for 80K in some parts that are struggling to fetch mid 40's now. If you have 80K to spend, I would get a motor ($4500.00), frame ($2500.00) and swingarm($500.00) off ebay ($7500.00), take the remaining $72500.00 and build a bike that would in every way crush whatever Ducati is going to deliver. That is provided you have the ability to do so of course. But that's just me.

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wilkson said:

I have heard it will be fitted with tyres that never wear out and are lighter than air itself .

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wilkson said:

I have heard it will be fitted with tyres that never wear out and are lighter than air itself .

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Kevin1199 said:

I also heard it doesn't run on gas but some new energy source that never runs out

Perhaps a Flux capacitor

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RD16RR said:

All the Self Development versus a Factory build ......???....not for me....I'd rather sit thru a root canal !!

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endodoc said:

Well I can pretty much guarantee you that the guys here that are able to build nice bikes from scratch, do their own work and tune and perfect what they have created were not born with that talent. If your not willing to go to the next level and "get involved" then you are relegated to reliance on others. You will always overpay and they will always under deliver. Thats basic economics. It is very rewarding when you take power and control away from others and realize that its relatively simple to navigate your own ship. How many posts populate this board that start out in "panic mode" and are littered with the word "hope" why would you ever give another entity that power when you don't need to. Having someone say "nice bike" is a whole lot different experience than "holly ...., you built that" Dig in. I guarantee its worth it.

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endodoc said:

Well I can pretty much guarantee you that the guys here that are able to build nice bikes from scratch, do their own work and tune and perfect what they have created were not born with that talent. If your not willing to go to the next level and "get involved" then you are relegated to reliance on others. You will always overpay and they will always under deliver. Thats basic economics. It is very rewarding when you take power and control away from others and realize that its relatively simple to navigate your own ship. How many posts populate this board that start out in "panic mode" and are littered with the word "hope" why would you ever give another entity that power when you don't need to. Having someone say "nice bike" is a whole lot different experience than "holly ...., you built that" Dig in. I guarantee its worth it.

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bradp51 said:

When I was 18 in 1979 I put new valves, pistons and rings in a 1976 Kawasaki Z900. It all went well until I put two teeth out on the camchain and bent all my brand new valves. You only learn from trying.

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RD16RR said:

....i can appreciate all that goes along with "the build" on any project..the self satisfaction, self gratification, self indulgence of self

- for me...and i know not everyone, but for me...i'd rather ride the bike, enjoy what the engineers have done relish in the fact that i have it/own it/am riding it....as opposed to then lament the details of Ducati (or any other brand) and try to equal or better them...(most usually in vain)

all the power to those that undertake such projects....(some of them remind me of 8th Grade science projects)....in the mean time, i'll be riding....hopefully burning off set(s) of tires before the project bike ever turns a wheel

im not an engineer or mechanic....just a rider....its like this: does a dentist do his own dental work "just because he can" ? -- i know i'm not doing my own root canals, even if i could !!

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