out of crate 1199 Dyno vid. High numbers

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this guy is a performance motorcycle shop, this is an advertisement video for his shop. They are saying that it's his particular method of running in this new bike on the dyno process that is gaining the extra performance over people who just run them in on the street
 
Is the Dyno supposed to account for drivetrain losses and not doing it? I would expect a full 20 hp, if not more, less than the dyno's number at the wheel..
 
One thing I found interesting in the video was the talk at the end about "not running in" the engine as per Ducati's recomendations.

It would be interesting if anything went wrong with the engine./drive train and they down load the engine data at the dealership and claim his warrenty is invalid due to not following the manufacturers recommendations.

A mate of mine in Singapore has told me that the Ducati dealership there will do the whole first 1000kms as a "hard run in" on the dyno and are claiming 8-9 more hp.

I think unless this bike is specifically for the racetrack, the first 1000kms is a great way to get to know the bike and how it handles.

Lets face it how many of us can really use 195hp for the way it was intended.
 
I love how people are always trying to get another 3, 5 or whatever more horsepower out of their bikes. Really, 195 isn't doing it for you? LOL. IF you are on the top end of racing, I could get it, but how many of us here are really in that category? :rolleyes:
 
VA Panigale said:
I love how people are always trying to get another 3, 5 or whatever more horsepower out of their bikes. Really, 195 isn't doing it for you? LOL. IF you are on the top end of racing, I could get it, but how many of us here are really in that category? :rolleyes:
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You clearly haven't seen me ride to Starbucks then...
 
Yes our bikes are setup for the street where we probably wont use all the HP. Although I know deep inside you already have or want to take it on the track and feel and use all the HP you can. Because thats what sold most of us on this beauty.

Although My first thoughts of this video was HAH! I'm rubbing these dyno numbers into my friends faces that have 2012 Kawi Zx10 and another with a BMWs1000.
Which both I've yet to race (do some highway pulls). Just to show off a little more. :)
 
It's all about the power to weight ratio which this bike is absolutely phenomenal! Best out there.

Dyno themselves are pretty consistant and true within a tolerance of course. It is software algorithms that doesn't change. IMHO the error is in the operator during setup. Everything must remain constant specially if you are comparing bikes.

For example:
How tight the tie downs are - the tighter the straps creates more rear wheel resistance which equal less HP and true for opposite. Weight of the person performing the Dyno testing. How much ram air the bike is getting or position of the fans to cool the engine temp and tire pressure. This is why we see people come up with different HP numbers than others. If you have access to some time on a dyno you should get a baseline first and then make adjustments to the above until you get max power. You would probably do quite a few runs and a lot of adjustments before you see max power. In my opinion it's just a number that is useless.

Dyno's are good for tuning to see how much increase you get during tuning and swapping parts as long as the above remain constant but to truly measure engine HP you need an engine Dyno that measure HP and torque at the fly wheel.
 
Carbon fibr said:
Yes our bikes are setup for the street where we probably wont use all the HP. Although I know deep inside you already have or want to take it on the track and feel and use all the HP you can. Because thats what sold most of us on this beauty.

Although My first thoughts of this video was HAH! I'm rubbing these dyno numbers into my friends faces that have 2012 Kawi Zx10 and another with a BMWs1000.
Which both I've yet to race (do some highway pulls). Just to show off a little more. :)
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dont do it...you're not going to like the results of those match ups
 
Stw said:
I think both bikes take the 1199... :(... the Zixxer is possibly even more powerful the the Beemer....
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Wow, did they change a bunch of stuff for 2012? I didn't think it was that much of a force in the past.
 
Carbon fibr said:
Yes our bikes are setup for the street where we probably wont use all the HP. Although I know deep inside you already have or want to take it on the track and feel and use all the HP you can. Because thats what sold most of us on this beauty.

Although My first thoughts of this video was HAH! I'm rubbing these dyno numbers into my friends faces that have 2012 Kawi Zx10 and another with a BMWs1000.
Which both I've yet to race (do some highway pulls). Just to show off a little more. :)
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Be careful. On this guys Dyno that S1k and Zx10 are likely to show 220 at the rear wheel :rolleyes:
 

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