Panigale R Dyno

Jayhawkk · May 31, 2015

Google the two units you're converting... "nm to torque converter" as an example.

JDBeretta · May 31, 2015

I just like to get an in depth understanding of certain things.

junior81 · May 31, 2015

All I can say is that IT put out some great numbers! Just been to Assen circuit and the R pulls fantastic. It smokes all other 1199s on the straights! Feels planted in the corners but to soft for me in hard breaking. Have to change springs in both shock and fork. But the bike i very well balanced!

I'm very happy with the bike!

sdsds · Aug 18, 2015

any new dyno's?
Maybe with +300mm termignoni?

sean999r · Aug 18, 2015

JDBeretta said:
HP and Torque will always (not sometimes) cross at 5252rpm when using imperial and 9549 when using metric...

HP/torque not crossing @ 5250 shows greater error in accurate dyno readings, as long as all testing is on the same dyno with same settings then everything to that dyno is relavent

HP= RPM x Torque
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5250

sexparty · Aug 18, 2015

sdsds said:
any new dyno's?
Maybe with +300mm termignoni?

Yeah sure buy me the system and ill throw it on my 15R and get it dyno at the workshop for everyone.

sean999r · Aug 18, 2015

Week or so Dyno time for my 14R with new Sprint Race filter, SSTK +150 header full Termignoni, Custom map Tuneboy will be done by Boulder Motorsports
I will post the results here

kismetcapitan · Aug 18, 2015

tomorrow is my scheduled mapping session for my 1299S. Dyno to dyno results vary, but generally speaking, it'll be interesting to see if my theory is correct - that the 1299 and the Pani R are, powerwise, two different ways of skinning the same cat.

80shilling · Aug 18, 2015

kismetcapitan said:
tomorrow is my scheduled mapping session for my 1299S. Dyno to dyno results vary, but generally speaking, it'll be interesting to see if my theory is correct - that the 1299 and the Pani R are, powerwise, two different ways of skinning the same cat.

I am waiting to see your results with great interest.

My plan is to get the new Sprint WSBK filter to replace my Sprint 08, then install the RapidBike Race module I just got from Yaman and see how it all plays out with my Carbon Termignoni slip-on. Even with ...... California 91 octane gas, I think I might hit 190 rwhp; with the race map and 104 octane race gas? Maybe 200??

Cheers and thanks for all the updates, etc., it's fun to see the development of the 1299.

kismetcapitan · Aug 18, 2015

80shilling said:
I am waiting to see your results with great interest.

My plan is to get the new Sprint WSBK filter to replace my Sprint 08, then install the RapidBike Race module I just got from Yaman and see how it all plays out with my Carbon Termignoni slip-on. Even with ...... California 91 octane gas, I think I might hit 190 rwhp; with the race map and 104 octane race gas? Maybe 200??

Cheers and thanks for all the updates, etc., it's fun to see the development of the 1299.

well, with the same exhaust as yours and the Sprint filter, I got 192whp/97tq, and the AFR dipped below 11:1 at high RPMs - ridiculously rich! The goal is 200whp, 100tq, 400lbs wet

Nice, even numbers!

RD16RR · Oct 2, 2015

2015 1299S DYNO Data

Here you go:

2015 1299S Full Termignoni System, Stock ECU & Stock Mapping
Max Power = 177.46 -- Max Torque = 90.86

Same 1299S with Full Termignoni System Stock ECU & Custom Map
Max Power = 188.51 -- Max Torque = 96.87

Whoopazz · Oct 2, 2015

Wow what a trq curve after the tune! Very linear! Awesome

Chaotic · Oct 3, 2015

80shilling said:
Even with ...... California 91 octane gas, I think I might hit 190 rwhp; with the race map and 104 octane race gas? Maybe 200??

Higher octane doesn't give more power. Octane simply defines resistance to combustion. If the bike isn't built/tuned to a state where it requires higher octane fuel to prevent early detonation, then people are just wasting money by buying higher octane fuel.

One of the biggest marketing schemes ever was when companies decided to label 93 Octane fuel "Premium", because it leads to people thinking "Im going to run the Premium fuel, only the BEST for my ....!". When in fact, "Premium" fuel isn't better, it is just different.

One of, if not THE best race fuels in the world is VP's MR12...and it is only 93 Octane.

Chaotic · Oct 3, 2015

Whoopazz said:
Wow what a trq curve after the tune! Very linear! Awesome

+1

That is the most important part. The ultimate peak HP is irrelevant for the most part. What matters is how rideable the bike is and how smooth and predictable the power delivery is.

torerik · Oct 3, 2015

Here is a comparrison with Panigale 15 R, with sstk electronics and "new Termignoni front header system" compared to a 2013 1199S with SSTK electronics and +150 exhaust, and a 1199S with normal race exhaust, but with rapid bike.

80shilling · Oct 3, 2015

Chaotic said:
+1

That is the most important part. The ultimate peak HP is irrelevant for the most part. What matters is how rideable the bike is and how smooth and predictable the power delivery is.

I have noticed that pretty much everything you post is right on the money. Keep on doing it.

Cheers and thanks for all your contributions.

Chaotic · Oct 3, 2015

80shilling said:
I have noticed that pretty much everything you post is right on the money. Keep on doing it.

Cheers and thanks for all your contributions.

Thanks for that.

By the way, i was glad to read your review on the DDS in the racer section. Now i am even more excited about trying mine.

80shilling · Oct 3, 2015

Chaotic said:
Thanks for that.

By the way, i was glad to read your review on the DDS in the racer section. Now i am even more excited about trying mine.

It's funny.. I am in tech, but pretty old school when it comes to the new electronics on motorcycles. I was totally convinced that the manual settings would be far better than any newfangled algorithm could ever be...

So I go to othe track, run the manual settings Dave Moss worked on, had him work some more on them and thought "well, that's as good as it can get" and was damn pleased.. Then the devil on my shoulder asked.. What if? And bugger me, if the dynamic settings weren't better!

I have ridden my friend's 2015 BMW S1000RR and don't like the way THAT DDC works.. Wooden feeling front end, not as much feedback as I'd like at the rear, but damn me if Ducati gave us something that works incredibly well.. Who knew???

Chaotic · Oct 4, 2015

You landed on a gold mine having Dave work on your setup. He really knows his ..... I personally rate him and Thermosman (Mike Fitzgerald) as probably 2 of the best setup minds in the world.

Dave helped crew our Endurance Team at the Grand Nationals last year. Not only did he help a lot with setup, but he was great during pit stops too. Fueling the bike, tire changes, you name it. We wouldn't have done as well if it wasn't for him.

And he really came in handy because I am 215lbs, but the other 2 riders were around 165lbs. We worked hard in practice to find a setup that works for me (it wasn't my bike) and when it was time for my stint, while they were fueling the bike, he would jump on the knobs and alter the preload/compression/rebound for me. Within 10-12 seconds he would have the bike setup for me.

I am pretty good at riding around minimal setup issues, but a 50lb weight difference is hard to ride around. I had issues under braking and trying to finish the corner on the gas when I rode with their setup. Having my own setup really helped a lot and Dave was the man.

wilkson · Oct 4, 2015

80shilling said:
I have noticed that pretty much everything you post is right on the money. Keep on doing it.

Cheers and thanks for all your contributions.

Agreed. I enjoy reading Chaotics input .

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