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If it's as close as it appears, that's too close..."talk about heat cycles" lol !!
Did you ever get a picture of the belly pan with the side stand down ? And by the way, did you use a small screw on the belly pan that's just barely noticeable to hold it in place as part of the mod you did ?
One of the main reasons the tyre is so close to the exhaust is iv jacked the rear of the bike up around 20mm, so it steers into corners like its on rails. A huge help,but whilst doing so iv lost clearance. I may have to drop a tooth on the rear sprocket,as the 'R' comes with a 41 as standard.
Not had a chance to get a picture with stand down as not at home for the rest of the week. The SL comes with mounting points just below each rearset,thats why iv used 16mm screws to secure the bellypan to the lower fairing.
Not had a chance to get a picture with stand down as not at home for the rest of the week. The SL comes with mounting points just below each rearset,thats why iv used 16mm screws to secure the bellypan to the lower fairing.
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I thought I saw a screw in there (so you drilled a hole in the belly pan to secure it better mounting it directly the stock mounting points on the SL Rearsets ?)...ill take a look at all the parts myself, now that the exhaust has been installed - the shop sent me a picture side stand attached, but without the belly pan....from the way you make it sound it should be fairly easy to make it happen, and not anything that needs bracketry or fabrication
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There is an issue with this exhaust I noticed at the track this weekend.. got to be very careful with warmers on. There is literally no clearance between the vertical up-pipe and tire.. like I can't even fit my pinky finger in there.
During engine warm up w/o warmers on, they'd have to occasionally rotate the wheel to keep it from overheating the rubber in that one spot.. seems like a bit of an oversight in design. But, I do like it!
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Yes. It's waaaay tight. Like unable to put warmers back on right away when coming off track. Gotta give the pipes time to cool.
Then you have to be mindful of engine warm up with warmers on. Just saw this in person on a buddy's 1299SL in our garage this past weekend @ COTA.
Also, going from the stock tires to the SC2 slicks causes even tighter clearances..
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Yeah an SC compound sllck touches the pipe,so put the road wheels on that has a 55 profile.
Options are to go down on the front or down on the rear sprocket,or a longer chain (to wind the ecentric hub further back). Or to use a 55 profile slick e.g Michelin.
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On the race Akra I have just fitted,it has variable diameter piping inline with tuning the motor. One piece is 78mm wide,and weighs alot less than the homologated Akra iv just removed.
As I said in a previous post,it already feels faster and pulls a shitload quicker, and this is before a tune/remap.
(Did I forget to mention the WSB spec Akra costs around 19k Euro
)I guess we will get a chance to see the Dyno numbers between the systems soon. The replica race system is quite a bit different than the SB system. So this is not an SL motor correct (1199) just some SL pieces? and the bodywork is all Riba composite off the SL or not? The bike is looks fantastic. Its just a little confusing with the SL numbered clamp and the 1299SL pipes. Anyhow again it looks great. Here are some comparison shots of the replica exhaust and the SB kit.
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This system is for the Ducati Supersport and it totally different
I have seen the WSB spec system up close as a good friend has it fitted to his RS16,and its totally different. Im guessing the dyno figures will be 20-40BHP more than my current system and you just cant compare them both. Plus the fact mine is a road/track exhaust,and the RS16/17 isnt.
Yes like I mentioned in a previous post,I have the current 'R',which is vitually the same as the 1199SL. I did have a previous 1199 with a ton of doner parts from the SL,but sadly this went to bike heaven after being spat off in Mugello late last year. I managed to salvage the top yoke,rear shock,and a rearset and fit them to this. I could have left the SL topyoke on a shelf as a memento,but its too damn nice not to fit it.
"This system is for the Ducati Supersport and it totally different"
I'm sure he knows that...:roll eyes:
I really don't think that your SL replica race exhaust system would make any less power than if a true SBK exhaust was installed on your engine in its current state of tune. The SBK exhaust is a very specialized piece, that is optimized for the SBK engine which has a higher output. The cams, compression, cam and ignition timing, porting, throttle bodies, injectors etc...all are tweaked to higher level for the SBK engine and the exhaust is therefore optimized for that state of tune.
But I still think the SL street replica version IS the ultimate in the looks department and probably a bit better performance wise than the original DP Akra full system. It is pretty obvious looking at the multiple shapes of the header tubes that a lot of engineering went into that design of the replica version and of course the Akrapovic quality is, IMHO, the best out there.
Your bike is a truly awesome piece of kit and I appreciate you sharing it with all of us...
I'm sure he knows that...:roll eyes:
I really don't think that your SL replica race exhaust system would make any less power than if a true SBK exhaust was installed on your engine in its current state of tune. The SBK exhaust is a very specialized piece, that is optimized for the SBK engine which has a higher output. The cams, compression, cam and ignition timing, porting, throttle bodies, injectors etc...all are tweaked to higher level for the SBK engine and the exhaust is therefore optimized for that state of tune.
But I still think the SL street replica version IS the ultimate in the looks department and probably a bit better performance wise than the original DP Akra full system. It is pretty obvious looking at the multiple shapes of the header tubes that a lot of engineering went into that design of the replica version and of course the Akrapovic quality is, IMHO, the best out there.
Your bike is a truly awesome piece of kit and I appreciate you sharing it with all of us...
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That's one SEXY bike right there!
I get it's for the SS. My point was that everyone and their mother is going to come out with a "look like Chaz" pipe. Man, I know it's just me and opinions are worth about as much as a Tito Rabat placing but I can't at all get into that pipe. Maybe it will make more power (which is so badly lacking on the Panigale) but I can't imagine it makes any more power then the Termi WSBK, Storm etc and again just my taste those systems are a bit easier on the eyes. I'm dying to see the oil temp with that pipe. Again, bike looks great. Just more interested in the mechanics.
I understand we all have different opinions,and I respect that. This is my preference on the best lookig kit for my bike and thats all that really counts
The bike gets no hotter than previous,as the sump isnt gettin roasted either side by the cans,just a small part of the rear from the pipe.
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I do feel an air of nit-picking on this thread, even if only intimated. The point is Pumpdad's bike does not purport to be anything other than an R in 1199/1299 SL lookalike clothing. I don't see the issue. I'm inclined to believe the fact that since the OP is lucky enough to know where to source the exhaust system seems to be grating on some, manifesting itself as a "little if any gain to be had" over an AKra or Termi (non-WSB) system. Who cares whether or not it has/does not have any actual or even perceived performance advantage. You either like it or you don't and ultimately it's the OP's bike so do as you will.
Me personally I like the GP4 calipers and Venhill dry break lines. I think this ranks as on a par with Kope's 1199 and possibly second to Carl Pettit's 1199SL which was an exercise in all you can do to an SL with an open cheque book. My own bike doesn't even come close but I've concentrated on other areas such as customising (Cerakoting) the airbox and swingarm, so each to their own IMHO. I'm not done modding mine but I dont have the funds to go crazy (much as I would love to and would if I could) and buy up all the high spec kit.
Me personally I like the GP4 calipers and Venhill dry break lines. I think this ranks as on a par with Kope's 1199 and possibly second to Carl Pettit's 1199SL which was an exercise in all you can do to an SL with an open cheque book. My own bike doesn't even come close but I've concentrated on other areas such as customising (Cerakoting) the airbox and swingarm, so each to their own IMHO. I'm not done modding mine but I dont have the funds to go crazy (much as I would love to and would if I could) and buy up all the high spec kit.
Sorry did not mean to come off negatively in any regard. Like i said the bike loos great and was done well. That being said, I have no idea where Topolino thought it was logical to use "on par" with Kope's 1199. They are not even on the same planet. Maybe aesthetically, but not at all mechanically. One is 95% otc bolt ons with the majority in the "aesthetics" category. The other, not so much. Again both beautiful bikes. I should know. I have the most mundane, least interesting looking bike on this board.
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kope hired an excellent shop to build him a tricked out bike, but kope should have learned how to ride on a 250 or 600 before pushing on that beast
pumpdad's bike is well executed no doubt, and 99%+ of us cant ride a base model anywhere near its full potential anyhow so just have fun i guess.... and if you're truly going for max performance just to do it, then most of the bling seems to come well before the legit mods, if ever
pumpdad's bike is well executed no doubt, and 99%+ of us cant ride a base model anywhere near its full potential anyhow so just have fun i guess.... and if you're truly going for max performance just to do it, then most of the bling seems to come well before the legit mods, if ever
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