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That’s not what’s going on with EC 2.0 or 3.0.
Panigale V4R 2024y vs new V4S 2025?
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No need to apologise however a bike with electronic suspension is much better on the road than one without.
I had a 2020 V4R which I used on the road for a very short while and it was awful on the road. I have a 24 V4R which I managed 60 miles run in on the road on stock setup which is a lot softer than I have set up for racing and it was still awful so no need to let me know
The R is a track focused bike pure and simple. Also, if you have the R get the Evo3 software if you use it hard as it’s a game changer Stops it spinning so much on corner exit on hard throttle.
I had a 2020 V4R which I used on the road for a very short while and it was awful on the road. I have a 24 V4R which I managed 60 miles run in on the road on stock setup which is a lot softer than I have set up for racing and it was still awful so no need to let me know
The R is a track focused bike pure and simple. Also, if you have the R get the Evo3 software if you use it hard as it’s a game changer Stops it spinning so much on corner exit on hard throttle.
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I have the 23 R. Raced Pro for 15 seasons over 4 decades. Got the suspension tuned by a pro. Added a bunch of rear spring for my 200 lb with gear. Lengthened the wheelbase, chain, Evo3 SW, Sweet ride! I would ride it in the northern Cali canyons, not much where I live. Ready to race machine. R is a step up for tracking. The R just does everything a little better, easier. Either bike is amazing for an expert rider to enjoy!
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Where does it say this?
The 22-24 S and 23+R have the same fork cartridges (NPX) so damping performance should be the same. Have you ridden the NPX/EC 2.0? It’s noticeably different from the 19-21 at least on the road. EC 2.0 seems to be less abrupt changes. The 25 S has NPX/EC 3.0 which has spool valving which is even allegedly better as it can make damping changes even quicker.
I’ve tracked multiple bikes with Ohlins manual (NIX conversions) and the 22 S NPX is better.
But again it’s going to be super subjective.
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Disagree about the electronic suspension being a load of crap. It’s also handy on the road to be able to switch between different modes and instantly get a different suspension set up.
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I do like the new dash with the extra info you can see, and the E-cbs they added which sound great one the new v4 but, on the v4r you can map each gear separately which it's something no other street legal bikes has. Stronger, faster engine, dry clutch (not the standard one) and it's 17lb (dry) lighter than a v4s2025, and a better looking bike for me . Plus on the new v4 now has less torque on lower rpm and in the US they reduced the power.
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Really?
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Yeah, i am working on the bike and I can't really turn it on to show you.
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You said ‘you can map each gear separately’. There are engine maps that have different settings for individual gears but I don’t believe you can map the individual gears yourself or change the gear settings within the preset maps.
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Yeah, I worded it wrong, on each power mode, different gear settings.
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