Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa V Supercorsa

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Supercorsa SC2s here. Phenomenal grip (far more than the SPs that come stock on the 1199s) and the wear is about comparable. Got two track days and a loop of 5 states out of 'em, which included lots of days like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urt71YqpMCs
 
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See picture of fried Power Cup rear above. Also tried Power One (precursor to Power Cup) and currently have a set of Power SuperSport mounted...but only have about 100 miles on them so too early to tell how they'll act when properly flogged.

Average about 1400 miles per set of DOT race rubber in street duty. Got a total of 1700 from the original set of Pirelli SuperCorsas, but that included 621 break-in miles per operator's manual instructions, so they're probably about equal for wear.

Front is a VA, rear is a C. The V is a nod to the speed rating (V, not Z) and not some sort of different profile as seems commonly misunderstood. The carcass of the VA or VB is stiffer than the standard A compound so it feels a bit more stable under hard braking to me. The trade-off is the lower speed rating, but I could give a rat's ass about top speed riding and I doubt my bike has ever been over 150 mph. I don't generally look at the speedo while riding.

The Michelins grip much better, but also have a much higher crown so the roll into the corner feels a bit more pronounced and it's more work (read "more fun") to get to the edge of the tire than with the Pirelli. Definitely a larger rolling radius, but no problems with TC set at level 3.

Willing to try Dunlops, and already have a set of Q3s ready to mount on the Super Sport this week, as the old Pilot single compounds are officially dead as of this weekend's Sunday ride.

Have fun experimenting with quality rubber. Hard to go wrong with any of these four (Power Supersport, Power Cup, Q3, or Supercorsa), I think.

Just FYI...the V in VA for the front tire of the Michelin Cup is relating to the shape of the carcass, not the speed rating ---- Cup fronts come either A or VA - the A has a rounded carcass, while the VA has V shaped carcass
 
Just FYI...the V in VA for the front tire of the Michelin Cup is relating to the shape of the carcass, not the speed rating ---- Cup fronts come either A or VA - the A has a rounded carcass, while the VA has V shaped carcass

Actually....looks like we're both wrong.....

Michelin Power Cup Front

There is no "V" shape to the tire. It is identical to the "standard" tire on the shelf or mounted onto a wheel. I've run them both and the "V" tire is simply stiffer and doesn't feel squirmy under braking like the standard tire does. Apparently the "V" refers to the fiber pattern or something in the carcass, as the speed rating is still a Z. My error on the speed rating.
 
i do know the pilot power 3 190 is actually 188 or 187 wide i forget .

Actually just spooned on a 190/55 PP3 onto my Pani last night, and it measured at 190 width and 549 height. So roughly 3mm narrower than a Q3 and the same height. Was looking for an off-season tire to get me through to Spring, and figured I'd give them a whirl since they've gotten great reviews for street use; especially in cool/damp conditions. Put on a set of S20's last fall for the same reason, then switched back to Q3's for Summer. Probably would have gone back to S20's if the new Evo version were available in the states.

Haven't run Michelins since the original Pilot Powers; these are completely different in terms of stiffness and profile, so it'll be interesting to see how they work. Will post up once I've had a chance to get some miles on 'em.
 
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Actually....looks like we're both wrong.....

Michelin Power Cup Front

There is no "V" shape to the tire. It is identical to the "standard" tire on the shelf or mounted onto a wheel. I've run them both and the "V" tire is simply stiffer and doesn't feel squirmy under braking like the standard tire does. Apparently the "V" refers to the fiber pattern or something in the carcass, as the speed rating is still a Z. My error on the speed rating.

...you said speed rating, i said carcass shape....."i'm right -- you're wrong"....:p

...kidding aside, i learned that carcass shape does relate directly to profile...the bike will tend to "fall over" quickly (as compared to the normal A tire) with a wider contact patch for the front (on lean angle)....giving the ability to power thru and out of corners with greater stability.....mind you, this is really a track focused tire, that we get lucky enough to enjoy street riding.....i love them, but if i didn't change them myself i hear the Q3's give that durability factor a boost at the price of stiffer carcass and harder rubber so in the end feedback might be less fun....nothing (for me at least) i've used yet, beats that "Michelin Smile" :)

here is what your SportBike Tire Service link reports:

Power Cup Competition, VA & VB front tires have a more open belt ply angle, thus a more rigid carcass, which gives the front tire:

Better stability when braking, which increases the ability to delay braking Better trajectory hold while on-angle, thus higher cornering speeds and earlier re-acceleration on corner exit
 
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...you said speed rating, i said carcass
...the bike will tend to "fall over" quickly (as compared to the normal A tire) with a wider contact patch for the front (on lean angle)....

Last I'll post on this subject, as we'll get no further without a Michelin rep chiming in.....I've ridden on both tires and I'm telling you the front isn't "V" shaped. There is no difference in my experience at turn it except the VA is firmer and gives better feedback near its limits of adhesion, and it feels better under heavy braking.
 

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