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My point exactly. Nobody going to do any of that every 1500 miles. At least them chain tensioners last 3000 miles. Don't forget to check for cracks in the main bearing webs... So these will thrashed for how many miles? Pity the second owners if these have not been serviced regularly.
I'd say no.
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Difference between amateur and professional is if someone is paying you to ride for them. Slightly different V4 schedule. I think I'll add the step for changing the oil mesh filter to you yearly service regime.
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Of course an individual funding their hobby would not, nor is it advised by Ducati to do so.
It's a schedule for professional race teams.
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MotoRapido rebuild a fair few R engines (both customer and their own BSB race bike), and as such have had a good chance to learn and understand the differences between racing and hobby track day riding where engine wear is concerned. They are not the same thing.
Their advice is 6000 miles would be a good number for a track day guy.
The bikes been out since 2019 and they are not letting go left right and centre after a few track days (That’s BMW’s party trick).
Time to move on from the R service nonsense and find something less tedious to justify why you can’t afford one.
Their advice is 6000 miles would be a good number for a track day guy.
The bikes been out since 2019 and they are not letting go left right and centre after a few track days (That’s BMW’s party trick).
Time to move on from the R service nonsense and find something less tedious to justify why you can’t afford one.
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Barni. I was surprised myself, but they use either original Ducati or Shell.
It's not the end of the world to use 300v 15-50 but just heard many times it's not good
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Same in BMW. But I heard a different story in European paddock
I know that British mates are big on 300v
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Getting an R for street use and riding it like a normal person would give a service life not too different to the 1103. The people who get an R for the track know what they are getting into and should have the budget to refresh more regularly.
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yea, no idea why people got so excited
I had BMW, I had V4R - if the bike heavily used on track - engine refresh every 5-6k kms anyway. The only downside of V4R - materials cost more.
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Seems that V4 engine failures happen around 5k of track miles from a cursory search of this forum. Though I think there’s only 2 documented engine failures here. If one were racing this bike an engine rebuild every 4k mi would probably be a good idea. For track days, should be able to get by with just oil changes every 2-3 trackdays.
Engine failures seem to happen bc of oil starvation and spun bearings so anything that would optimize oiling.
It’s also good to have a warranty.
Engine failures seem to happen bc of oil starvation and spun bearings so anything that would optimize oiling.
It’s also good to have a warranty.
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btw, I bet M1000RR engine is as expensive to refresh as V4R
Nope. The cam lobes on the R's are so much more radical. That's why they're calling out intake valves (at least the valves are sacrificial to the guides) every 1500 miles. The pistons are loosely fitted 2 rings. 1103's will have 4 or 5 times the service life.
They've rev'ed the oil pump 4 times. The 2025's 1103's have gone to the latest R pump (it's been rev'ed a few times too). I've always believed this was due to inadequate volume on the pressure side of the pump. So my expectation is that's what they've done. You'd have to retool to do this but you stick it in the cost of the model change.
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Surely they use the super duper stuff for the extra 3HP?!
They use Bardahl for oil
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I’ve heard more BMW S/M1000RR engine failures than V4 failures
wasnt the one guy in India? ... seemed like dealer error
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That’s what I was thinking. And it happened like after the 600 mi oil change
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