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SuperDomestique said:
So in between those £10k refreshes, you have £2k annual desmo services? So another £4k… So operating costs of £4600/year just on those maintenance jobs alone over 3 years. With running costs like this, your pockets won’t be deep for long! Also, how much do you plan on selling your £39k tracked V4R
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Sounds about right, maybe more, loads more, haven’t thought about it really. May depend on how much I pay myself when I do the valve clearances, or if i can’t be bothered and get someone else to do it. Are you offering to buy it when I’ve thrashed it half to death for 2 years?
 
You have to pay to play at this level and dont fool yourself that the Jap RRR bikes are much cheaper if ridden completion style. Likewise the M1000 hand grenade, dont even mention what a lowside is going to to to your carbon fibre replacement budget.
 
KA77 said:
Sounds about right, maybe more, loads more, haven’t thought about it really. May depend on how much I pay myself when I do the valve clearances, or if i can’t be bothered and get someone else to do it. Are you offering to buy it when I’ve thrashed it half to death for 2 years?
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In order to retime the cams (and you have to take them out right) the front head requires the front subframe to be removed and the rear subframe for the rear head. This isn't like the twins. 3 days vs 1 day for a twin. And there are no aftermarket shim sets available so you paying ducati $20 per shim. Mine at 9000ish miles required 14 shims (and then they sent me 2 bad ones). I think there's going to be a bunch of bikes for sale when the owners get told $4K for a desmo service. And the valve action is pretty radical so if they're ignored the valvetrains will end up being total crap.
 
baggerman said:
In order to retime the cams (and you have to take them out right) the front head requires the front subframe to be removed and the rear subframe for the rear head. This isn't like the twins. 3 days vs 1 day for a twin. And there are no aftermarket shim sets available so you paying ducati $20 per shim. Mine at 9000ish miles required 14 shims (and then they sent me 2 bad ones). I think there's going to be a bunch of bikes for sale when the owners get told $4K for a desmo service. And the valve action is pretty radical so if they're ignored the valvetrains will end up being total crap.
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The V4 has been around for about 5 or 6 years now, I think most people have moved on. And valve timing checks are not exclusive to Ducati, why does everyone carry on like the Desmo service is something special? If you race or track a bike and don’t do regular maintenance, be it oil changes, valve timing, engine refreshes or what ever, then the machine is going to let you down at some point, and maybe while your riding it!
 
Like most Ducati's most of these aren't ridden much. May take 5 years to get to a valve adjust. Look at Panigales for sale, lots with low mileage. This is not a job for the average guy in his garbage. Again not like the twins. You can run the 4 valve beltdrives on the road 75-80K miles (maybe more) as long as they're maintained reasonably. No way any of the guides in a V4 will see 40K miles. Lots of lubrication failures in the earlier V4's and I expect more to expire as the bearing clearances open up with mileage.
 
craig bush said:
Looked to me like the race of Champions bikes might have already had Spider rearsets on them.
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Those were Ducati Performance rearsets

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panibadboy said:
Cancel that

Clean pass by Marc, Bulega left the door open

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Further commentary from Mladin:

“In the accompanying pic, Marc is already ahead of old mate, who has already sat up. The fact he crashed after this is his problem and his problem alone. Ianone still far from the apex. It wasn't even close. A soft pass at best.

I'm getting tired of handing out cuddles to grown men but here's a few more 🤗🤗🤗

Bulega and Ianone were slowing, and in the last two laps Marc pulled them back in. Door was wide open early and Marc took it. Marc never ran wide. For anyone to say his pass was anything but an everyday race pass, is dreaming.

Ducati's best on equal machinery. Not one of them blokes on that track even saw the "exhibition" part. Ok, maybe Jorge Martin did, because he got his arse handed to him. Days like that help Ducati to realise that they definitely chose the strongest rider for 25. The mental strength of Pecco and Marc is to be admired. I love watching them. Having cut a few fast laps back in the day, it's not easy to impress me but Pecco and Marc are next level right now.

Bulega just got taught a good lesson. Marc is as true a racer as I have seen since the Doohan, Rainey and Schwantz days. Those blokes would have eaten your kids to get a race win. Until the checkers drop, it is on! I haven't forgotten the old days. They were good! And the three legends of the sport I mentioned above, taught me so much.”
 
SuperDomestique said:
So in between those £10k refreshes, you have £2k annual desmo services? So another £4k… So operating costs of £4600/year just on those maintenance jobs alone over 3 years. With running costs like this, your pockets won’t be deep for long! Also, how much do you plan on selling your £39k tracked V4R?
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I didn’t mean for my original reply to be flippant but I feel you are trying to justify you not having an R more than express your genuine concern on how others might chose to spend their hard earned.

Here is what my super duper Italian exotica cost me in servicing since I purchased it new in May 2023 :

First service by GT Plymouth £175 (obligatory if you want to keep your warranty)

5 litres of Motul 300V £59.99 X 2
OEM oil filter £17.99 X 3 X 2

So a total servicing cost of £330.96 for 15 months on track.

I don’t intend to carry out valve clearance checks until somewhere around the 2000 mile mark, which will be around this time 2025 (if I still have it).

Is that ok with you?
 

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