Anyone have experience with any product that adds downshift and blipper to models that only have the upshift feature? The OEM upshift feature works fine on my bike, but for racing the downshift would be really nice.
Quickshifter for 2013 1199 (want downshift capability)
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I have added a BlipBox to my 2013 1199. There's a good video of the install on YouTube. It works well. Sometimes the downshift doesn't go thru. It will blip the throttle, but the bike doesn't go down a gear. But at least some of that is due to me not giving the lever a good downshift pull with my foot.
I have the rapid bike set up, I really like it, has the ability to tune options/ sensitivity, cut out times.... etc
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I've been using the Tuneboy setup for about 18 months. Very satisfied with the software and hardware associated with the Setup, but the CS is a bit vague and slow. The good thing about the Tuneboy blip system is that you can adjust it to the way you do things. If you have a heavy foot, you can dial up the pressure sensor to compensate, and you can adjust every factor of the blip, from length of time of the blip to how much percentage of throttle is used, to the lightness or heaviness of your touch on the shifter when it engages, and you can 'tune' it for each gear...throttle percentage and length of time for blip for each gear and each RPM. The quick shifter changes to a pressure sensor type activation, rather than the old micro-switch and you can dial in the 'feel' for the quickshifter as well. Quick shifter aggressiveness and length of time for the ignition cut vary depending on RPM and Throttle position...softer at part throttle/low rpm, firmer at higher rpm and throttle. I'd recommend going with the entire Tuneboy kit, including Cruise and Tune, for best results. That way you upgrade to Cruise Control (great for those 2-tank rides), get THREE engine mixture/tuning maps, THREE 'Track Mode' throttle curves (linear, constant torque, and quick curve), adjustable launch control parameters that can be engaged whenever you want them, and once you get a couple of F/A sensors in place you can fine-tune the mixture of each cylinder. I found out that the fuel Maps for the 1199 have changed over time, due to the addition of Ethanol to gas in the US vs the rest of the World, and being able to fine tune the fuel curves has added greatly to the smoothness and overall feel of what happens when you twist the throttle. I wound up richening the mixture, especially in the mid-range, about 3-5% and as much as 8% in some places, to get the fuel Maps working properly, but once it's done, it's rock solid.
Hope this helps. Enjoy your ride.
Hope this helps. Enjoy your ride.
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so I finally got out to the track with the blip box ... on the whole it works very well. I find that feel of the upshift is a little more mushy than the OEM, bit the downshift is is very good feeling-wise - seems very crisp if that makes any sense. would definitely buy again if needed.
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You should use the Bike Sport QS/Blip separately from the TuneBoy setup. Merely check the 'quickshifter' box in the Config System popup, to UNclick the box, and you can use any QS/Blipper you want because Tuneboy will ignore all inputs that are not made through the O2 sensor plug, and the 1199's stock system will not have inputs through it's 2-pin input.
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Your QS/Blip sensor is a load sensor, not a switch like the stock Ducati system. This makes the system requires a certain amount of increasing force to reach the 'break point' for the systme to trigger, in both directions. What you feel is normal for such a trigger/sensor due to this slight 'feel delay' during the shift.
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The QS/Blip is an integrtal part of the Tune package. You just need to install the load sensor assembly in place of the stock shift rod, then wire it to one of the O2 sensor inputs, then set it up according to the QS/Blip instructions. CC is the only 'add-on' feature you need to purchase in addition to the basic Tune package. Of course have to buy the appropriate hardware as well. If you already have the Tune/CC package installed, you can go directly to the QS/Blip function by only install the necessary parts.
Help me solve a mystery. I have a 2012 1199S, bought 2 summers ago, (2021) with about 5k miles on it. Bike was bone stock-no evidence of any aftermarket shift system but my bike offers both up and down QS.
I've tested it numerous times, it is indeed QS down---not just rev-matching. Throttle needs to be under load, but it will very smoothly downshift if engine/throttle is under load.
How can this be? I'm understanding 2012 1199S models did NOT offer bi-directional QS.
Would love opinions on this--not complaining--glad to have it!
Greg
I've tested it numerous times, it is indeed QS down---not just rev-matching. Throttle needs to be under load, but it will very smoothly downshift if engine/throttle is under load.
How can this be? I'm understanding 2012 1199S models did NOT offer bi-directional QS.
Would love opinions on this--not complaining--glad to have it!
Greg
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Can you see if there is any part number on the switch itself - we can compare it to the different versions. I know the 1299 offers bi-directional but that is not plug and play....? Very curious
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The 1299 comes stock with up and down shifter. The wiring plug shows 3 wires instead of the 2 present in the 1199. It's hard to tell from the photos I see on line if it is a strain-gauge detector or a double micro switch design, but it's definitely in both directions. In any case, it would by proprietary to the 1299 wiring and computer, and owuld not be transferable to any other motorcycle without some serious rework of the electronics.
That info notwithstanding--my 1199 has bi-directional QS, 100%. I've looked for an aftermarket kit--can't find one.
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