Reliability

Hi there,

I just wanted to ask how reliable the Panigale V4 is. I’ll have my license in two years and am planning to get the V4 as my primary vehicle/everyday vehicle. Btw, in Germany there are different types of bike licences so before getting the V4 I will have driven a motorcycle for at least two years. Just saying before you tell me that the V4 is not a beginner bike
So will it be a reliable everyday companion?

Here in America we could start on a V4S from age 16

How old r u?? Maybe start in wet mode hahaha

we’ll find out over the next 2 years how reliable they are. Of course these bikes have not been maintenance headaches, they’re all under warranty!

don’t get a dry clutch, and be sure to have a nice full savings account after purchasing the bike to fix all the problems I’ve come to call “privileges of ownership” and of course for all the “upgrades” you will desire to install

first bike? Nah. go buy a Street Triple 765 or 675, or a nice used Daytona 675. These bikes are solid and definitely plenty of power for a younger rider. My Ducati wants to kill me, my triumph has been a dream. No issues since I bought it new in 201

learn how to do your own oil changes, brake fluid flushes etc. don’t mod it too crazy tho cause it never will be the Ducati of your dreams. That comes later

DucatiKev said:

Here in America we could start on a V4S from age 16

How old r u?? Maybe start in wet mode hahaha

we’ll find out over the next 2 years how reliable they are. Of course these bikes have not been maintenance headaches, they’re all under warranty!

don’t get a dry clutch, and be sure to have a nice full savings account after purchasing the bike to fix all the problems I’ve come to call “privileges of ownership” and of course for all the “upgrades” you will desire to install

first bike? Nah. go buy a Street Triple 765

learn how to do your own oil changes, brake fluid flushes etc. don’t mod it too crazy tho cause it never will be the Ducati of your dreams. That comes later

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No it’s not gonna be my first bike. I know how to do oil changes and brake fluid changes. I’ve been working on bikes for quite some time. Btw, I’m 17

Look man, if u buy a new bike that isn’t a Ducati, you won’t be happy till u make one yours. The V4 is a very special bike and way to powerful.
If you can handle it, but it.

it’s definitely way more complex than the usual. Oil filter is internal etc

you’ll love it

the big twin Ducati super bikes like to rattle themselves apart, so I’m always checking bolts but the v4 is a more refined package. I’m sure they’ll all have small issues but they’re not usually super expensive to fix, especially if you can do the work yourself. You’ll probably do just as good of a job as your local Ducati dealer.

for example, my bike needed a new clutch slave cylinder. I bought the piece below and took it to the dealer to install and replace my rear tyre. It was over $500(USA) for the tire and labor, plus $200 for the clutch slave part. So that was a $700 week. If .... like that would be too expensive, then wait till ur a bit older.

reliability wise... it’s not gonna leave you stranded, I can assure you of that.
but it will make u go broke real quick

DucatiKev said:

Here in America we could start on a V4S from age 16

How old r u?? Maybe start in wet mode hahaha

we’ll find out over the next 2 years how reliable they are. Of course these bikes have not been maintenance headaches, they’re all under warranty!

don’t get a dry clutch, and be sure to have a nice full savings account after purchasing the bike to fix all the problems I’ve come to call “privileges of ownership” and of course for all the “upgrades” you will desire to install

first bike? Nah. go buy a Street Triple 765

learn how to do your own oil changes, brake fluid flushes etc. don’t mod it too crazy tho cause it never will be the Ducati of your dreams. That comes later

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No it’s not gonna be my first bike. I know how to do oil changes and brake fluid changes. I’ve been working on bikes for quite some time. Btw, I’m sure

DucatiKev said:

Look man, if u buy a new bike that isn’t a Ducati, you won’t be happy till u make one yours. The V4 is a very special bike and way to powerful.
If you can handle it, but it.

it’s definitely way more complex than the usual. Oil filter is internal etc

you’ll love it

the big twin Ducati super bikes like to rattle themselves apart, so I’m always checking bolts but the v4 is a more refined package. I’m sure they’ll all have small issues but they’re not usually super expensive to fix, especially if you can do the work yourself. You’ll probably do just as good of a job as your local Ducati dealer.

for example, my bike needed a new clutch slave cylinder. I bought the piece below and took it to the dealer to install and replace my rear tyre. It was over $500(USA) for the tire and labor, plus $200 for the clutch slave part. So that was a $700 week. If .... like that would be too expensive, then wait till ur a bit older.

reliability wise... it’s not gonna leave you stranded, I can assure you of that.
but it will make u go broke real quick

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With the “small licence” we can get at 18yo we are only allowed to drive anything up to 48hp. So my first bike can’t be the V4. We need to be 20 for the unlimited hp licence

ok cool!

yeah man, plan to make your Ducati dreams come true when it’s time.
Idk we might all be dead from a virus by then, if you listen to our fake news media here in USA.

audi put a lot of resources into creating the V4 Panigale. the Germans did a great job bringing the Ducati superbike to 2020

DucatiKev said:

ok cool!

yeah man, plan to make your Ducati dreams come true when it’s time.
Idk we might all be dead from a virus by then, if you listen to our fake news media here in USA.

audi put a lot of resources into creating the V4 Panigale. the Germans did a great job bringing the Ducati superbike to 2020

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Well thank you! That helped me a lot but one more thing...I have contacted a Ducati dealer here and he told me that most riders at my age lease theses things for around 340€ per month. That would be 3 years of Ducati fun of which two are covered by the warranty but after theses three years I’d have to pay 12000€ to finally purchase the bike but I can think about that when it’s time. That leasing thing should kinda work out, don’t you think?

Leasing is great if you want to spend a little bit extra over your life to always have the latest and greatest.

I put way to many miles on to even consider a lease, it’s kind of like a trap cause the payment is a bit lower but you’re limited with accessories and miles.

buy a V4 when ur 20 and you’ll still have it when your 30, and 40 and maybe a few other bikes by that time.

what do u do? work, university?

DucatiKev said:

Leasing is great if you want to spend a little bit extra over your life to always have the latest and greatest.

I put way to many miles on to even consider a lease, it’s kind of like a trap cause the payment is a bit lower but you’re limited with accessories and miles.

buy a V4 when ur 20 and you’ll still have it when your 30, and 40 and maybe a few other bikes by that time.

what do u do? work, university?

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At the time I could purchase the V4 I’ll be at university. But I’ll have to get a job anyways. Studying is expensive. The limit is 5000km per year (3100 miles)

Apex said:

The limit is 5000km per year (3100 miles)

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Riding is addictive, the cost is no where near worth the benefit at 5K a year. No way

it’s a trap

I put 5K on my bikes in 2 months

I understand the European stepped motorcycle licenses, and by the time you have your top license you will be ready for the Ducati. The only problem I see for you is having the bike as your primary/everyday vehicle while under a lease. These bikes have a decent resale value. Don't be afraid to buy it. You should not have a problem selling it later on if you decide to go that route.

DucatiKev said:

Riding is addictive, the cost is no where near worth the benefit at 5K a year. No way

it’s a trap

I put 5K on my bikes in 2 months

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I imagined you would say that. And 5k is very little if that’s suppose to be my everyday vehicle. But I don’t have 23k to buy the bike...you know, which 17yo has?

cmh210 said:

I understand the European stepped motorcycle licenses, and by the time you have your top license you will be ready for the Ducati. The only problem I see for you is having the bike as your primary/everyday vehicle while under a lease. These bikes have a decent resale value. Don't be afraid to buy it. You should not have a problem selling it later on if you decide to go that route.

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I just don’t have the money to buy it. I’m 17 that would be crazy

You can definitely develop the skills for a V4 at a young age. Age shouldn't be an issue if you treat it with the respect it deserves. Not everyone can do that (at any age). I was nowhere near being in the financial position to afford one in my teens. Truly affording one is having money beyond just being able to make the payments. All I can say is if you have to stretch to buy a Ducati, a Ducati is not for you at this time. I see Ducati as an expensive toy/track bike, usually your 2nd,3rd, 4th or 5th bike.

I would not recommend it for transportation you 100% rely on. You will feel horrible stretching yourself financially and then being without a bike for weeks or more if you are one of the unlucky ones that has an issue. This is not a knock against Ducati. It is a comment on all the flagship sportbikes. Flagship bikes are pushing limits of HP and weight. The result is reliability and expense that you do not find in your average bike. Just look at what is happening with the 2020 S1000RR right now and that is from a country known for its engineering excellence.

In the end, you only live once. Do what makes you happy. But my experience is that you will be happier with a different bike at this point in your life.

I agree with what ArcticWhite said. Do not look for a Ducati of any sort to be your primary mode of transportation. I am new to owning one but this isn't my only bike, and my motorcycles aren't my primary source of transportation. I have been lucky enough (and saved up for a while) to buy the motorcycle of my dreams. I bought it knowing there would be other expenses that come with it and it would be something I enjoy, not rely on to get to work every day. Listen to what some of the people on here are saying and take their advice. I believe you will be ready to drive a V4 once that time comes, but the money is the deciding factor here. There are kids here in the USA that are 16 and go out and buy a liter bike all the time with minimal practice. You just have to be smart and realize you are sitting on one of the fastest (and most dangerous) road legal machines money can buy. Respect it, be responsible, and know that bike will more than likely always be magnitudes better than you. It will be for 99% of the people who buy one, and that goes for any modern superbike. My only advice to you would be to wait, save your money, and don't be afraid to buy something used. I never buy anything new anymore. You can find a nice used bike with very little miles and good maintenance records. It will save you a lot of money. Just educate yourself and know what to look for and BE PATIENT. The time and bike will come. It took me 8 years to be in the position to buy mine and be completely financially stable.

Everything DucatiKev said is spot on also. When the time comes that you can afford it, buy the bike of your dreams. It should be something that you always look at and makes you happy. If you don't buy it, you will always want it.

If you want a superbike to daily, get the S1000RR if you absolutely want a superbike as a daily commuter, but I would leave the Duc to the trackday weapon/weekend bike. S1000RR is really comfortable compared to the V4. V4 has been pretty reliable on my end, but I only have a bit over 2k miles in nearly a yr and a half of ownership, so I can't say entirely. My 750GS has over 9k miles in the yr and 4 months I've had it and THAT, has been really comfortable and reliable.

Stay_Shmackin said:

When the time comes that you can afford it, buy the bike of your dreams

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Haha thanks.
Most of the Ducati owners here are well established in their career
Or they have a rich daddy
Or they suck all the old men’s dicks for cash

DucatiKev said:

Haha thanks.
Most of the Ducati owners here are well established in their career
Or they have a rich daddy
Or they suck lots of dicks to pay for it

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I can imagine. It should be something you work hard towards. You enjoy it more. Plus you will take care of it. And finding a good deal on a nice used bike helps a lot too.

DucatiKev said:

Haha thanks.
Most of the Ducati owners here are well established in their career
Or they have a rich daddy
Or they suck all the old men’s dicks for cash

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hah! man you killing me through this whole thread! you talk like me