Replacement Front Forks For 1199 Base - what to get?

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Hey,

So my stock front forks on my 1199 base are ......, no rebound or damper at all. So now comes the fun part of finding something to replace them with, now the coating on the fork leg is also starting to wear away so i'm not looking at rebuilding them because it is just too much ....... around.

So the question is do i go Ohlins R&T NIX 2.2k or S model Ohlins 1k?

I know with the S model forks i will need to change my triple clamp. and i am not sure how easy they are to convert from electronic to man adjustment?


also how is that a big with less than 30,000km and 4 years old has ...... front forks :mad::mad:
 
Just thinking about it off the top of my head, you would probably be better off going with the standard Ohlins R&T Forks. Your bike doesn't have the ECU/software to control the S forks even for just the standard adjustments for compression and rebound. By the time you bought some S forks, then converted them, you would probably be better off with the R&T forks.

The S forks are the R&T forks (they are essentially Ohlins 30mm Cartridge Kits inside Ohlins tubes) they are just electronically controlled. In other words, guys who put a 30mm Kit in their base forks have essentially the same thing. An argument might could be made for the coating on the Ohlins tubes, but very few could notice a difference.

If you got some S forks, they would be used. Then you would have to convert them. And by the time you did all of that, you might end up spending the same money as some new R&T forks (I think they are only about $2,200-$2,500).
 
Ohlins FGR&T203's Mount right up to a base model or get some Bitubo forks.. Zohsix on here can get them.. Or you can splurge if you race and get some Mupo forks
 
Is your rear shock stock? R&T forks with a stock shock would kinda dumb lol
Why not get the Ohlins combo nix30 carts /ttx shock for $2300.
Labor to install carts if you pull the forks will be in the $200 range.
Recoat the fork stanchion tubes for like $200 ish...total 2600
 
i saw the combo for nix30 carts and ttx rear shock however after having the issue with my forks plus needing to recoat them i don't really have the confidences in using them again.

The S Ohlins are relatively cheap between $800-$1200 US for a used set, i guess it all depends on the cost to convert them to manual adjustment, i know i was quotes around $500 to convert the rear S shock to manual.

Bike is mainly used for street riding with the odd track day now and then, i would ideally just replace them with another standard set but i don't want this issue happening again.
 
Are the newest base replacement forks from Ducati redesigned at all to eliminate this failure? I rode my 1199 a few times before I bought it, honestly couldn't tell any issue but the last owner took it into the dealer before i purchased it and was told they were shot. He fought with Ducati Italy and got a new set under warranty. Are they any better? Coming from a commuter 749 a pogo stick would have more control, but it would be nice for peace of mind if I go to resell

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BROsiah said:
Is your rear shock stock? R&T forks with a stock shock would kinda dumb lol
Why not get the Ohlins combo nix30 carts /ttx shock for $2300.
Labor to install carts if you pull the forks will be in the $200 range.
Recoat the fork stanchion tubes for like $200 ish...total 2600
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I second this. If riding a base you must upgrade both ends. I wouldn't get S forks and convert them, you'll spend more than recoating and getting cartridges for the base forks. You can't go wrong with any of the brands, ohlins, Penske,or mupo.
 
suck it up get the Ohlins RT203 with TTXGP shock, you won't regret it. Easy drop in installations.

Call around, you can probably get a set for $3300

when you ready to sell your bike, slap the OEM back on and sell off the Ohlins, they're worth gold. That way, you are only spending $3300 - resell value ($2000) = $1300 for Ohlins forks and Shock.
 
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S model ohlins are not the same as fgrt203 ohlins. The ohlins on the S model is like their entry line suspension. They don't have the same range of adjustment like the fgrt203 does. The headache in converting S forks to manual just doesn't seem worth it. Call around for a bundle package or if you're patient, deals pop up on here from time to time.
 
I will be posting a set of ohlins forks off a 2016 Panigale 1199R next week when I'm back from Austin. It will help you keep your costs down from an fgrt203 set and be way better than what you currently have. $1500 includes the top triple you need and the handlebar clamps to fit the smaller diameter fork top.


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dont wasted your money on oem ohlins any way you put it it not the same call ohlins usa they will tell you the diferences, I was in the same boat couple years ago
1- the oem ohlins dont fit the top trilple so you need to spend money on that .
2- the oem ohlins dont come with the spring for you weight you new to buy new sprint.
3- the oem ohling dont come with the superbike valve so when you change the adjuste to manual you need to get new valve
4- you need to pay to change it to manual and now that you are in there change the seal because those are used fork.
5- nobody is going to pay top money for oem fork that who knows? who put it together.
if you go the other routed you are getting a brand new fork kit with no miles that fit on your bike is better than oem and anybody will pay top money for it
dont get the catrige kit if you are planing to sell the fork people dont really like buying crap that other put together. check this forum and see how many month it take people to sell catrige kit.
 

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Best results I have had had been using the Mupo cartridge in the Base model forks . I prefer them over my 1199r ohlins forks with cartridge set up .
 
I recommend K Tech cartridges and shock. Depending on your budget you are looking for 2500 $ for pro shock and good cartridges or 3400 for same pro shock and gas charged front. But you will not regret it. I had my marches replaced twice in one year. Than i started racing my pani and it was not an option keeping stock forks. Also sachs shock is kind of crap as well.
 
thanks for the input everyone.

i have decided to just go the FGRT203 Ohlins for the front.

Rear i will look at later on, i current have a Ohline spring in it and find it pretty ok when i'm at the track however i am not the fastest rider.

Problem i have is the conversation rate 2.2k US ends up being 3k AUS :( but have reading all the horror stories on the std forks i guess it is money well worth it.

I love to have a conversation with my local ducati dealership about some sort of help on their end as i do believe this is a manufacture issue however if the past is anything to go by i feel i know what the answer will be. and seeing as i was talking to another owner who bike is less than 1 month out of warranty with the same issues and they told him "NO!" i don't like my chances
 
Some of these comments regarding the standard Ohlins forks on the S are laughable. I just recently won 2 Expert races on those OEM forks. They are more than capable of getting someone around town, through the mountains or around the track.
 
Chaotic said:
Some of these comments regarding the standard Ohlins forks on the S are laughable. I just recently won 2 Expert races on those OEM forks. They are more than capable of getting someone around town, through the mountains or around the track.
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yes you right, but only if you allready have it on your bike, buying oem fork take off it not because unless you get it for less than $1000 it not worth it.I got my fork for $1800 with the spring for my weigh allredy installed.
 
kaido said:
thanks for the input everyone.

i have decided to just go the FGRT203 Ohlins for the front.

Rear i will look at later on, i current have a Ohline spring in it and find it pretty ok when i'm at the track however i am not the fastest rider.

Problem i have is the conversation rate 2.2k US ends up being 3k AUS :( but have reading all the horror stories on the std forks i guess it is money well worth it.

I love to have a conversation with my local ducati dealership about some sort of help on their end as i do believe this is a manufacture issue however if the past is anything to go by i feel i know what the answer will be. and seeing as i was talking to another owner who bike is less than 1 month out of warranty with the same issues and they told him "NO!" i don't like my chances
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Interested in your feedback on this. I'm looking at replacing the forks and shock. The standard sach has been modified making it a lot better than it was, had this done while the fork seals were being replaced. Rebound adjustment has never been strong on both set of forks I' ve had on the bike. The Tech did tell me it will disappear completely over the next 1000km. Saving now to replace the lot with ohlins gear. Just completely over it
 
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