Riding to work in 26 degree weather..
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I have 4K plus miles on the bike now and have ridden exactly once when the temps have been below 60.
I love SW Florida!
That said....the power the bike makes at 60F versus 85F is pretty noticeable. I might have to try commuting on one of those freezing 40 degree days this winter.
Chris
I love SW Florida!
That said....the power the bike makes at 60F versus 85F is pretty noticeable. I might have to try commuting on one of those freezing 40 degree days this winter.
Chris
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I do have heated gear and while the heat feels awesome I hate that tethered feeling. #sillyproblems
Get some that uses batteries. I have a vest that uses batteries, they last about 6 hours.
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I am wearing 4 layers, including the Dainese windblocker top.. The big problem is my hands; MAN, I can hardly feel my fingers after 10 minutes...
Here's the report as of right now; notice the low from yesterday morning.. 21.4 degrees..
Elev 154 ft 38.00 °N, 122.58 °W | Updated 2 min ago
Overcast
Overcast
49.6 °F
Feels Like 50 °F
N1.7
Wind from South
Today is forecast to be COOLER than yesterday.
Today
High 51 | Low 40 °F
0% Chance of Precip.
Yesterday
High 58.6 | Low 21.4 °F
Precip. 0 in
San Anselmo, CA (94960) Forecast| Weather Underground
dude get the gerbings heated gear. i dont even ride in the cold and i have it. hell what size are you maybe ill sell you mine its been worn once. i have the thermostat and the gloves too. hmmm maybe ill make a classified.
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When I say I have always ridden year round, I mean ALL YEAR round. Don't care if it's Apocalyptic rain, cold or Fog... I am riding...23 degrees? Are you CRAZY ?
You are a braver man than me...
Of course I was brought up on the Texas South Coast where we only have three seasons.. Hot - Damn hot- and cold and drizzley... (cold to me is 45 degrees)
No one could pay me enough to live where it get 22 degrees.. I will stick to the hot climates.. If it gets that cold it would not even enter my mind to get on a motorcycle...LOL
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That's my rationale for riding every day; no matter what the conditions, I have already ridden in them hundreds, if not thousands of times in my life. I have been commuting to work by Motorcycle every day for 36 years!! Damn I'm getting old.
Because I ride every day, my skills are kept sharp and I am used to whatever road conditions there are. I also ride the exact same tyre I have ridden for the last 6 or 7 (or more) years, the Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa; that means I know exactly how the tyre will deal with the conditions on any given day.
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40 F is my cutoff point. Above it and I'm game (no matter the weather). Below it and I only ride when I have to (such as being caught in it).
As for temps/power...ask any 2-stroke tuner who will tell you that as temperatures fall, air density rises (generally speaking). Not sure how the ECM compensates for differences in temp and air density but in general the colder the air, the leaner the mixture (air density rising will lean out mix). So yes, I would expect a leaner mixture to result in some small gain.
Causes all sorts of tuning issues with 2 strokes at the track (2-strokes being very sensitive to small changes in barometric pressure/humidity/temperatures/etc). Less so in a 4 stroke but still will have some effect. But without a really sophisticated ECM that can calculate air density precisely (a long formula involving barometric pressure, humidity, temperature - a calculator is indispensible) changes in air density will affect tune on them.
As for temps/power...ask any 2-stroke tuner who will tell you that as temperatures fall, air density rises (generally speaking). Not sure how the ECM compensates for differences in temp and air density but in general the colder the air, the leaner the mixture (air density rising will lean out mix). So yes, I would expect a leaner mixture to result in some small gain.
Causes all sorts of tuning issues with 2 strokes at the track (2-strokes being very sensitive to small changes in barometric pressure/humidity/temperatures/etc). Less so in a 4 stroke but still will have some effect. But without a really sophisticated ECM that can calculate air density precisely (a long formula involving barometric pressure, humidity, temperature - a calculator is indispensible) changes in air density will affect tune on them.
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I have the RapidBike Race module and as far as I know, it will compensate for the extra dense, dry air, by adjusting the A/F ratio to compensate..
Cheers.
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Was riding at Chuckwalla the last few days...chilly, especially the am. Never was bothered by choppy throttle at low rpm...but seemed quite noticeable through corners. Cold air? I gave my Ar to Brian of Boulder Motorsports for tuning and a few other goodies...excited to see/ride the outcome! Will start a new thread when more info available! Because...you know...the bike needs even more power....
Good on you G!
Good on you G!
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I ride year round. I have taken long distance trips and remember seeing as low as 17deg FH when I pulled out of my garage.
I have never used any heated grips or vests or anything. But I do heavily rely on these "Cold Killers":
Knox Cold Killers
And these gloves:
KNOX Hand Armour Zero 2 Gloves Black V14 - Sportbike Track Gear
Theoretically, if you can block 100% of the wind it will be no colder going 80mph down the road as it is standing in the driveway. Then it is a matter of trapping in some bodyheat.
Obviously it is impossible to block 100% of the wind, but if you dress properly you can get most of it.
I will start with a 1-piece undersuit like we wear under our leathers (Alpinestars makes one that is thicker, for winter). Then I will put on a "turtle neck" shirt and some thick riding jeans that have a cloth insulation built in (sorta like having some jogging pants sewn to the inside of some really thick jeans). I tuck the turtle neck inside those jeans.
Then I put on another long sleeve shirt over the turtle neck that is made of silk. It is thin, but traps bodyheat. I tuck it into the jeans also.
Then on top of that I wear that "Cold Killers" jacket thing in that link. It is amazing how much wind it blocks and bodyheat it traps. Then on top of that I wear my normal riding jacket with the windproof liner zipped into it.
And I wear those Cold Killer sock things on top of my regular socks.
And with that, I can leave the house at well below freezing temps and be fine. And I wear all of that by design because in my trips I head South. As it gets later in the day and/or I get further down, it warms up...and I can pull over and remove one or multiple layers as needed and put them in the saddlebags (Triumph Sprint ST). I also carry a regular set of summer gloves too.
I have never used any heated grips or vests or anything. But I do heavily rely on these "Cold Killers":
Knox Cold Killers
And these gloves:
KNOX Hand Armour Zero 2 Gloves Black V14 - Sportbike Track Gear
Theoretically, if you can block 100% of the wind it will be no colder going 80mph down the road as it is standing in the driveway. Then it is a matter of trapping in some bodyheat.
Obviously it is impossible to block 100% of the wind, but if you dress properly you can get most of it.
I will start with a 1-piece undersuit like we wear under our leathers (Alpinestars makes one that is thicker, for winter). Then I will put on a "turtle neck" shirt and some thick riding jeans that have a cloth insulation built in (sorta like having some jogging pants sewn to the inside of some really thick jeans). I tuck the turtle neck inside those jeans.
Then I put on another long sleeve shirt over the turtle neck that is made of silk. It is thin, but traps bodyheat. I tuck it into the jeans also.
Then on top of that I wear that "Cold Killers" jacket thing in that link. It is amazing how much wind it blocks and bodyheat it traps. Then on top of that I wear my normal riding jacket with the windproof liner zipped into it.
And I wear those Cold Killer sock things on top of my regular socks.
And with that, I can leave the house at well below freezing temps and be fine. And I wear all of that by design because in my trips I head South. As it gets later in the day and/or I get further down, it warms up...and I can pull over and remove one or multiple layers as needed and put them in the saddlebags (Triumph Sprint ST). I also carry a regular set of summer gloves too.
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It may be good. But it ain't that good. Without specific adjustment for barometric pressure and humidity content it's not going to be completely accurate.
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Get a pair of snowmobile gloves, they make them in leather. I usually use them in anything below 40°F.
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Steveo, I am using Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsas, so not as soft in the center as the stock SP's and they do warm up relatively quickly.. I would not, however be doing any serious riding in the twisties and expect decent grip from almost any tyre at all, in freezing temperatures. For commuting, they seem to do fine in those temperatures.. I spent last week riding in brutal rain and on Thursday was caught in a BIBLICAL level downpour on my commute back home and the DRC's dealt with it just fine.. Once you get down to the cords, however, they are insanely slippery, as you would expect.
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The Rosso Corsas may count as oem tyres as its the recommended tyres for the rainy season.
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Cool,
Will take it easy tomorrow, I've got a feeling my hands will give up first
I've been running the M7RRs and even in the negatives they are amazing. Ride with confidence bud.
Over the last couple of days, it has been insanely cold (for the Bay Area at least); I live in a valley that has been as cold as 22 degrees over the last couple of mornings; this morning, it was 26 degrees when I left to ride to work.. The 1299 has handled it easily and I am now SOOOOO glad for the undertail exhaust heat..
I like the fact that I get the friendly little yellow square with the black snowflake as a freezing warning, popping up on the dash..
The only issue has been that the stock pads/brakes are a tad reluctant to stop the bike in these temperatures, but other than that, the bike continues to make me grin from ear to ear... It REALLY like the cold, dense, dry air and seems to be making an extra 10HP or so...
You are CRAZY!
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