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Wonder if any of these could be shifter related as the shifter kills the ignition for split second to shift, even with the clutch being used. Just a thought.
 
This happened to me this morning whilst slowing down to about 40km/hr from 3rd to 2nd.
The other time it happened was the day I took delivery and a few days after.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the the exhaust flapper valve... It's been perfect since I disconnected it about a thousand kms ago. The dealer reconnected it a few hundred kms ago during the 1000km service after they applied the new ECU map.

hmmm....

Think I'm going to disconnect the exhaust valve again.. tis' a little scary having a bike stall like this... lucky I wasn't going through a roundabout or something like that..
 
Some kind of interference maybe? There is a TV/Telecom antenna in my area that is renowned for stopping vehicles starting up when people have visited the shops close by,screws up the alarms too. Not arming or disarming. People have been pushing their vehicles down the road a couple of hundred yards and presto,no problem,cars back to normal. Freaky:eek:
 
Sounds very familiar

Hasn't this been an ongoing issue for several years with the Ducati superbikes? I've seen numerous threads about this on the 1098's and 1198's too.

A lot of those owners had their cams "degreed" and the problem disappeared. Apparently, many (most) of the 1X98's came from the factory with the cams as much as 6+ degrees off. I guess it just costs too much to pay some poor "overworked" Italian to set them up correctly when they're being built. :rolleyes:

Don't know if this applies to the Panis too, but it might be worth looking into.
 
Manny949 said:
So has anyone actually found a solution? or is it a Ducati gremlin?
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I have disconnected my exhaust valve and she seems better again.. could be coincidence, but 1000kms of trouble free riding, had a service, they reconnected the valve and she was back to her old tricks..
 
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've been bitten by the stalling bug. :mad: Had the bike since last May and never had this problem over (5k miles). I just picked my bike up from the dealer yesterday (they had it for nearly two weeks) where they had to:
1. Reset the service indicator light. I had the dash replaced a few weeks ago and the 600 mile services indicator was driving me crazy.
2. Replace the thermostat housing and hoses. Had a coolant leak from the housing.
3. Upload the latest upmap

In order to get to the T-Stat housing some serious disassembly is required. I don't know if a connector or ground is loose or if the upmap caused this? But now every time I roll up to a stoplight or sign and pull in the clutch, the revs drop. Obviously when they drop too low the bike shuts off which doesn't happen every time. But the revs do drop every time and the bike feels like it wants to shut off. After about 5-10 sec, the idle comes back to normal. Restarting isn't a problem as long as I get back to neutral. But it shut off twice on the hour ride home from the dealer. :mad:
 
Its happened to me on numerous a cations too. Same thing rolling to a stop buy pulling in the clutch and just cuts out! Happened on idle too. Very annoying!!
 
It's a bit freaky when it happens. Just dead, like you hit the kill switch:(

It hasn't happened to me since i got the revised map installed.

Cheers,
Brad
 
I haven't had the problem on the 1199, but my 848 was prominent for this issue. I talked with my dealer and a few dyno tuners. They said it is a lean fuel issue. Dealer offered to do some valve adjustments and such... Not gonna happen. Or I could buy a Termi system and it would go away (Termi + Race ECU = no more lean fuel) and will run richer because of the ECU richening the fuel to compensate for the more open exhaust. But spending money on an exhaust to fix a problem from the dealer should not be the solution! My friend also had this problem on his Hypermotard. It is a known issue with Ducati.

I threw my 848 on the dyno, and I do not have the dyno to show you but they confirmed it was running very lean, and the tuner said the fix would be running a new map in the bike, course you need another ECU for this as the stock one was locked for them since they do not have the equipment to do flashing for Ducati's.

So, my idea would be to keep reporting this to your dealer and to ensure that it is solved along with any of the other problems. But there is a very easy fix for this, just have them tune your map! I am not sure about other dealers, but both of the Ducati dealers in Michigan have a dyno and the equipment to tune a new map. I am not sure why Ducati has not realized yet that this is a prominent issue and makes the rider feel unsafe when your engine cuts out while riding (during clutch pull in of course). Simple fix really, just needs to richen your fuel map up to compensate. Any fuel controller will fix this problem as well (Bazzaz, Power Commander, Austin Racing, etc or ECU flash) but not like the updated map, need a more personal tune to each bike. Proof of this is just like Brad said, it stopped after he got his updated map, but each of our bikes are in a different environment and those of you who have the new map probably notice it is less frequent if not eliminated altogether.
 
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1779 miles on my '13 and its happened to me 4 times. I don't stall bikes so I was wondering what the hell was going on.
Good to know it isn't me. Worse to know it is the bike.
 
elitesoldier357 said:
I haven't had the problem on the 1199, but my 848 was prominent for this issue. I talked with my dealer and a few dyno tuners. They said it is a lean fuel issue. Dealer offered to do some valve adjustments and such... Not gonna happen. Or I could buy a Termi system and it would go away (Termi + Race ECU = no more lean fuel) and will run richer because of the ECU richening the fuel to compensate for the more open exhaust. But spending money on an exhaust to fix a problem from the dealer should not be the solution! My friend also had this problem on his Hypermotard. It is a known issue with Ducati.

I threw my 848 on the dyno, and I do not have the dyno to show you but they confirmed it was running very lean, and the tuner said the fix would be running a new map in the bike, course you need another ECU for this as the stock one was locked for them since they do not have the equipment to do flashing for Ducati's.

So, my idea would be to keep reporting this to your dealer and to ensure that it is solved along with any of the other problems. But there is a very easy fix for this, just have them tune your map! I am not sure about other dealers, but both of the Ducati dealers in Michigan have a dyno and the equipment to tune a new map. I am not sure why Ducati has not realized yet that this is a prominent issue and makes the rider feel unsafe when your engine cuts out while riding (during clutch pull in of course). Simple fix really, just needs to richen your fuel map up to compensate. Any fuel controller will fix this problem as well (Bazzaz, Power Commander, Austin Racing, etc or ECU flash) but not like the updated map, need a more personal tune to each bike. Proof of this is just like Brad said, it stopped after he got his updated map, but each of our bikes are in a different environment and those of you who have the new map probably notice it is less frequent if not eliminated altogether.
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You're probably right but my problem started after getting a new upmap. The map was supposed to help lol.
 
rm4two said:
You're probably right but my problem started after getting a new upmap. The map was supposed to help lol.
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Each bike is going to be different. Yours may be taking the tune slightly different than the rest. When you pull the clutch in your revs drop, your ecu tries to compensate the fueling, too much air flow is being pushed in and your bike leans too much and shuts off. I assure you if you have your bike map tuned (to a personal level) than it will go away. Or if you purchase a fuel controller and pipe (pipe optional) and have a new map uploaded. Where the difference is going to be is about 0-2,000 rpm max, which is where the new map doesn't really change much. But if yours went the other direction in that range, which sounds like it did by even a small fuel decrease, you would notice this problem. Your dealer can fix this, it's just a matter of convincing them to do so.
 
elitesoldier357 said:
Each bike is going to be different. Yours may be taking the tune slightly different than the rest. When you pull the clutch in your revs drop, your ecu tries to compensate the fueling, too much air flow is being pushed in and your bike leans too much and shuts off. I assure you if you have your bike map tuned (to a personal level) than it will go away. Or if you purchase a fuel controller and pipe (pipe optional) and have a new map uploaded. Where the difference is going to be is about 0-2,000 rpm max, which is where the new map doesn't really change much. But if yours went the other direction in that range, which sounds like it did by even a small fuel decrease, you would notice this problem. Your dealer can fix this, it's just a matter of convincing them to do so.
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Again, you're probably right? I'm going to try a few things this weekend before I take it back to the dealer AGAIN! Does anyone know if the dealer can roll back to a previous mapping?
 
rm4two said:
Again, you're probably right? I'm going to try a few things this weekend before I take it back to the dealer AGAIN! Does anyone know if the dealer can roll back to a previous mapping?
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You can deny new maps and upgrades if you would like. Or as my dealer said, "If we have to install something, how bout you just take it with you and say we did" :D
 
But the stalling is a fuel issue. So whatever you choose to fix it. I said earlier that the fuel controller may be able to fix it, I forgot to mention that it is only true if it can adjust the driveability range (some can, some can't) which is from 0-4000 RPM. So ECU flash or putting in a Race ECU will fix it. I also know of a man who cracked the Panigale ECU and can flash your bike. He works for Ducati and you should be able to have it flashed without voiding warranty. He does R&D for a company called Rexxer USA. Works directly for the Ducati dealership in Virginia.
 
elitesoldier357 said:
But the stalling is a fuel issue. So whatever you choose to fix it. I said earlier that the fuel controller may be able to fix it, I forgot to mention that it is only true if it can adjust the driveability range (some can, some can't) which is from 0-4000 RPM. So ECU flash or putting in a Race ECU will fix it. I also know of a man who cracked the Panigale ECU and can flash your bike. He works for Ducati and you should be able to have it flashed without voiding warranty. He does R&D for a company called Rexxer USA. Works directly for the Ducati dealership in Virginia.
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My Dealer said they can roll back the recent upmap, so i'm going to start there. I told him that I don't want it back until everything is working correctly. So we'll see. :rolleyes:
 

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