Stock exhaust melting lower right fairing section

Darken · Aug 8, 2012

I'll have to post a picture tomorrow in the day time.. but I did a first service a few days ago, I come out and funny enough it wasn't oil I was smelling after a few miles of riding.. it was plastic. There is a dime sized area that is melted and black the whole way through.. it put a crack right under where it melted too I suppose from a stress fracture of the bike vibrations with the structural integrity melted away (pun intended).

I can't say if it's something the dealer did or it was just fate.. is anyone else having similar issues with the stock exhaust? (I know the termi has some fun heat melting issues).

D1199 · Aug 9, 2012

Yip same problem....... photos sent to Ducati yesterday as I was at the 1st service... new parts required and solution will be reviewed.....

In red (see below) is what caused the issue..... might have been spot welded a little too far out..... so with 1mm clearance..... you get red spaghetti !!

They are looking into this as this is again not the 1st time.....

This is what the "0 series" is all about...... teething pains !!!!

But we love it..... or not !!!

tbot · Aug 11, 2012

This has been addressed by Ducati and there's a bushing that they've come out with that's supposed to fix this. Haven't installed it yet on any bikes, so when we do and I have some solid data to report back I will.

TransNone13 · Aug 11, 2012

On another note:

Anyone notice that the ABS module wears into the right upper fairing pretty good?

Xbox · Aug 12, 2012

First thing I did was file that weld point down by a few mm, as I noticed it had started to spot the panel. Dab of touch-up paint and all good.

Capt CF · Mar 11, 2013

Just a note - this wasn't automatically handled in the 2013 models. I remembered the threads so I eyeballed it a couple of times when I first got the bike and it seemed ok. I went on a really long ride yesterday and when I got back and was wiping the bike down I noticed that the cleat that the exhaust spring anchors to has started to melt through the lower right fairing. The weld is fine, but the cleat is just making contact enough to melt the fairing.

So, 2013 guys, you may want to keep an eye on this or do something proactively to avoid melting your fairing and having to deal with a warranty issue. Had I seen it before, I would have put a piece of tubing down there to keep it from touching until the next visit to the dealer.

TransNone13 · Mar 11, 2013

I have a couple of recommendations.

Use Cool-tech adhesive heat shielding and grab a couple of silicon stoppers from Ace and apply them to the fairing where the rubber piece makes contact with the fairing.

Problem SOLVED!

I did this.

Capt CF · Mar 11, 2013

TransNone13 said:
I have a couple of recommendations.

Use Cool-tech adhesive heat shielding and grab a couple of silicon stoppers from Ace and apply them to the fairing where the rubber piece makes contact with the fairing.

Problem SOLVED!

I did this.

I threw a piece of tubing I had lying around on the cleat to keep it from making contact and will poke around for another solution unless the dealer has an "official" fix when I take it in to get a replacement fairing.

Nuke · Mar 11, 2013

Capt CF said:
Just a note - this wasn't automatically handled in the 2013 models. I remembered the threads so I eyeballed it a couple of times when I first got the bike and it seemed ok. I went on a really long ride yesterday and when I got back and was wiping the bike down I noticed that the cleat that the exhaust spring anchors to has started to melt through the lower right fairing. The weld is fine, but the cleat is just making contact enough to melt the fairing.

So, 2013 guys, you may want to keep an eye on this or do something proactively to avoid melting your fairing and having to deal with a warranty issue. Had I seen it before, I would have put a piece of tubing down there to keep it from touching until the next visit to the dealer.

Mine is a 2013 also - Nothing done by Ducati to fix it yet. Actually just dropped it off back to the dealer earlier today to get the fairing replaced under warranty. Hopefully they'll move the cleat and not just swap fairings over as the issue will obviously only return.

But yes still love her regardless of these issues here and there.

Pouakai · Mar 11, 2013

The welded wire loop had negative clearance on my '12 tri and had melted through the fairing before I even lifted it from the showroom ! The panel was replaced under warranty (got the oil sight opening!), a factory supplied grommet/spacer fitted which increases the clearance by maybe 2mm, and the header tube is rotated some. After this work the clearance was about 5mm, but the exhaust has since self-centered somewhat and the clearance has reduced again to about 2mm - no further signs of damage at that though.

These things though are really just workarounds, the real problem is that the spring loop is badly positioned on the exhaust header and the real solution would be to either replace the header with another with good loop positioning or to grind the loop off and re-weld a new one further inboard.

P

Capt CF · Mar 12, 2013

Pouakai said:
The welded wire loop had negative clearance on my '12 tri and had melted through the fairing before I even lifted it from the showroom ! The panel was replaced under warranty (got the oil sight opening!), a factory supplied grommet/spacer fitted which increases the clearance by maybe 2mm, and the header tube is rotated some. After this work the clearance was about 5mm, but the exhaust has since self-centered somewhat and the clearance has reduced again to about 2mm - no further signs of damage at that though.

These things though are really just workarounds, the real problem is that the spring loop is badly positioned on the exhaust header and the real solution would be to either replace the header with another with good loop positioning or to grind the loop off and re-weld a new one further inboard.

P

I totally agree. There's no real reason that cleat/loop is exactly where it is and it should definitely be inboard. Oh well, hopefully the "rotation and spacer" hack will take care of it. If I still don't like the clearance I'll figure out something on my own.

MichaelNolan · Mar 13, 2013

I've already installed a new fairing from Ducati which told fixed the problem but still burning the fairing...

Capt CF · Mar 13, 2013

MichaelNolan said:
I've already installed a new fairing from Ducati which told fixed the problem but still burning the fairing...

There's a rubber grommet or spacer of some sort that should have been installed when they replaced the fairing that holds the header a few mm away from the fairing. Is yours touching? I installed a piece of rubber hose to keep mine spaced away for now and will be taking it in for replacement once the heat shields are out (if I end up installing them).

MichaelNolan · Mar 13, 2013

Capt CF said:
There's a rubber grommet or spacer of some sort that should have been installed when they replaced the fairing that holds the header a few mm away from the fairing. Is yours touching? I installed a piece of rubber hose to keep mine spaced away for now and will be taking it in for replacement once the heat shields are out (if I end up installing them).

before my fairing replaced they've put a thick rubber insted of the orignal rubber but useless.

oalvarez · Mar 13, 2013

How do the bikes make it beyond the factory with issues still like this? Or why are they delivered by the dealerships without a fix in place?

ugh Ducati

Capt CF · Mar 13, 2013

MichaelNolan said:
before my fairing replaced they've put a thick rubber insted of the orignal rubber but useless.

I'll really have to watch mine then. I definitely don't want to have to drive out there for another fairing! I didn't watch mine closely the first time around since I figured as a "known issue" it would have been remedied on the 2013 models. Now that I know that is not the case I'll watch the next one really carefully and bodge something together if I think it might be melting.

MichaelNolan · Mar 13, 2013

Capt CF said:
I'll really have to watch mine then. I definitely don't want to have to drive out there for another fairing! I didn't watch mine closely the first time around since I figured as a "known issue" it would have been remedied on the 2013 models. Now that I know that is not the case I'll watch the next one really carefully and bodge something together if I think it might be melting.

this is the new one.as you can see it is melting again

Capt CF · Mar 13, 2013

MichaelNolan said:
this is the new one.as you can see it is melting again

Is that a weld behind the fairing that is making contact? With mine it is the actual loop/cleat that the exhaust spring attaches to. If that weren't rotated so it points right at the fairing I don't think mine would make contact.

Capt CF · Mar 13, 2013

Here are a couple pics of mine.. I put a small piece of hose on the cleat to protect it from further melting so you can see that in the lower pic.

MichaelNolan · Mar 13, 2013

my first fairing is touching the weld.but this one isn't touching it but still melting...

Stock exhaust melting lower right fairing section

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