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It looks like most of you guys either live overseas (not USA). Or up north from me. I live in Austin Texas area and it get HOT here. Also very humid sometimes so the heat issue is really subjective.. I think the bike definitely looks better without the covers however evidently the factory saw a need to install them. Anyone out there ( that lives in a hot humid climate) run without them?


Speedy

I live in Orlando Florida. Hot and humid is an understatement here. Majority of the panigales around here don't have them on.... I don't know if it actually transfers the heat to another area as some people state... But as I stated before, why have these amazing magnesium heads on our panigales and not want to see it? They basically cover up the gorgeous look and demeanor of a sexy bike... Undress her a bit!

I know when I hot, I don't put more clothes on...
 
I live in Orlando Florida. Hot and humid is an understatement here. Majority of the panigales around here don't have them on.... I don't know if it actually transfers the heat to another area as some people state... But as I stated before, why have these amazing magnesium heads on our panigales and not want to see it? They basically cover up the gorgeous look and demeanor of a sexy bike... Undress her a bit!

I know when I hot, I don't put more clothes on...

Yeah you are right about the heat in Florida LOL... Thanks for the reply I will try it with them of the bike..It does look much better without them..
If I could only get mine to run better on the low to mid range, I would be really stoked about the whole package..:cool:
Speedy
 
Guam is HOTT!!!

It looks like most of you guys either live overseas (not USA). Or up north from me where it is generally cooler and less humid most of the time. I live in Austin Texas area and it get HOT here. Also very humid sometimes so the heat issue is really subjective.. I think the bike definitely looks better without the covers however evidently the factory saw a need to install them. Anyone out there ( that lives in a hot humid climate) run without them? this time of year it gets from 90's to 100's Fahrenheit.

Temps and Humidity are pretty high here on Guam, daily, throughout the year.
Bike is hot, but man up or jump in your aircon auto. Have run with and without the covers. Little change, majority of heat is without a doubt coming from that arc of the rear header.
 
It looks like most of you guys either live overseas (not USA). Or up north from me where it is generally cooler and less humid most of the time. I live in Austin Texas area and it get HOT here. Also very humid sometimes so the heat issue is really subjective.. I think the bike definitely looks better without the covers however evidently the factory saw a need to install them. Anyone out there ( that lives in a hot humid climate) run without them? this time of year it gets from 90's to 100's Fahrenheit.


Speedy

No covers, and I'm using the smaller exhaust cowl from the 899.

St. Louis Missouri. Its 96 and humid here.
 
These covers came about with the advent of the Panigale.

Before that there were no covers but still plenty of heat........ a lot of heat, if not more! If you were a Ducati fan, this was never a problem or an issue, it was just a Ducati trait along with a whole list of different quirks like electronics and starting problems. But no one really cared, they just loved the bikes for its looks, V-twin engineering and sound. It was a brand you loved and if you didn't like it or get on with it, get something else!

Then came the Panigale which took off and became very popular with booming sales. Everyone was like "I want one of them". As more and more people bought the bike, coming from other brands, these quirks and characteristics weren't so easily tolerated. People had an expectation. They were paying top dollar and these issues weren't seen as acceptable. But to me, a bit old school, it was no issue. With that came the recall to 'fix' the issue and keep the masses happy and sales moving so as not to put any potential new customers off and the covers have been there ever since.

Maybe a bit of Audi engineering too!
 
These covers came about with the advent of the Panigale.

No they didn't. They were added after the release of the '12 model year. '13s came with them standard. I bought mine in June 2012 and it did not come with the covers. I took the bike back for the turn signal harness recall and the tech said we have your covers, do you want me to put them on? I said hell no, and he said I have to deliver them to you. So he did. In a box. They are still in said box. I don't remember people saying they really made a huge difference anyway.

They came about because people were bitching about the heat. It really is a personal thing - maybe more about how you ride than your heat/pain tolerance. A friend of mine bought a week before I did and he ended up with blisters on his legs from his ride home from the same dealer. I rode the same route and had no such problem.
 
Straddling a 195 HP engine is going to be hot.

I don't know how you get blisters from it though, unless the riders own particular height/proportion just places them into a bad position.
 
These covers came about with the advent of the Panigale.

Before that there were no covers but still plenty of heat........ a lot of heat, if not more! If you were a Ducati fan, this was never a problem or an issue, it was just a Ducati trait along with a whole list of different quirks like electronics and starting problems. But no one really cared, they just loved the bikes for its looks, V-twin engineering and sound. It was a brand you loved and if you didn't like it or get on with it, get something else!

Then came the Panigale which took off and became very popular with booming sales. Everyone was like "I want one of them". As more and more people bought the bike, coming from other brands, these quirks and characteristics weren't so easily tolerated. People had an expectation. They were paying top dollar and these issues weren't seen as acceptable. But to me, a bit old school, it was no issue. With that came the recall to 'fix' the issue and keep the masses happy and sales moving so as not to put any potential new customers off and the covers have been there ever since.

Maybe a bit of Audi engineering too!

Ferrari has done much the same thing. I can sum up my drive in an F40 in three words - hot, miserable, uncomfortable. Modern Ferraris are faster, handle better without requiring F1 driver skills, and can be driven daily comfortably. Imagine that.
 
You do not have to remove the subframe to take off the covers. Simply remove the lower bolts and pivot it up an inch or so. You only need to clear a small stud on the cylinder head to slide the cover up and off.

Tank can stay on?
 
Tank can stay on?

IIRC, all I did was take off the top part of the bracket which holds it down in the rear to get a little bit more flexibility. It can actually more pretty far still hooked up.

In general though, don't be afraid of taking the tank off. Its incredibly easy.
 
No they didn't. They were added after the release of the '12 model year. '13s came with them standard. I bought mine in June 2012 and it did not come with the covers. I took the bike back for the turn signal harness recall and the tech said we have your covers, do you want me to put them on? I said hell no, and he said I have to deliver them to you. So he did. In a box. They are still in said box. I don't remember people saying they really made a huge difference anyway.

They came about because people were bitching about the heat. It really is a personal thing - maybe more about how you ride than your heat/pain tolerance. A friend of mine bought a week before I did and he ended up with blisters on his legs from his ride home from the same dealer. I rode the same route and had no such problem.

That's exactly what I just said.......
 
These covers came about with the advent of the Panigale.

To me this says the covers were there from the start which they weren't but maybe I misunderstood. In any case you're probably spot on about the change in the demographics of the 1199 buyers and why maybe that the heat is more of an issue. I came from an 848 to the 1199, so it wasn't much different to me. My friend came from a CBR 1000 to the 1199 which is definitely a change.
 
Anyone out there ( that lives in a hot humid climate) run without them? this time of year it gets from 90's to 100's Fahrenheit.

Speedy

I'm in Georgia. It get's damned hot and humid here. I don't have them. Don't run the newer "improved" rear manifold exhaust cover either. Was offered them by Ducati as free warranty retrofit (I declined). The redesigned exhaust cover is ugly and I don't like the idea of putting a heat cover on the cylinder heads.

I've never really noticed any heat from the rear cylinder head. But I tend not to be bothered by any of the heat the machine produces anyways.
 
It looks like most of you guys either live overseas (not USA). Or up north from me where it is generally cooler and less humid most of the time. I live in Austin Texas area and it get HOT here. Also very humid sometimes so the heat issue is really subjective.. I think the bike definitely looks better without the covers however evidently the factory saw a need to install them. Anyone out there ( that lives in a hot humid climate) run without them? this time of year it gets from 90's to 100's Fahrenheit.


Speedy

I live in Sydney Australia and riding in 38 deg C day in Summer in gets hot. I never had the covers fitted on my bike because I think it would make the engine run hotter and therefore increase the exhaust gas temp. As i said back in post number six, I think the heat comes from the exhaust pipe under the seat so increasing EGT will just make the exhaust heat problem worse.
 
I live in Sydney Australia and riding in 38 deg C day in Summer in gets hot. I never had the covers fitted on my bike because I think it would make the engine run hotter and therefore increase the exhaust gas temp. As i said back in post number six, I think the heat comes from the exhaust pipe under the seat so increasing EGT will just make the exhaust heat problem worse.

I live in South Africa and I concur.
 
To me this says the covers were there from the start which they weren't but maybe I misunderstood. In any case you're probably spot on about the change in the demographics of the 1199 buyers and why maybe that the heat is more of an issue. I came from an 848 to the 1199, so it wasn't much different to me. My friend came from a CBR 1000 to the 1199 which is definitely a change.

Okay, my bad.

But yeah, that's what I was getting at. I also came from the 848 so the Panigale was no different, if not better..... and the rest is as you say
 
I did dismantle those ugly covers also on my new 1299, it's a huge improvement in the appearance of the bike!
 

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