Supercorsa - Terrible For Road Use

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Yes thats correct. I am beyond disappointed with the performance of the factory Super Corsa's on the road. They track like hell, they feel like they are diving under in a corner, they really are hot or cold, meaning, on smooth, track like surface, smooth road, etc they are excellent and provide tremendous grip, however take them on an avg canyon run road, and find yourself fighting the bike, and having extreme in corner movements and all around discomfort. Sorry but the the Dunlop Q3's embarrass this tire in all around performance. Im surprised more people are not dissatisfied with these tires.
 
I wouldn't be too quick to condemn the tires. I am of the opinion that it is the suspension that is wholly inadequate in dealing with bumpy road surfaces. I have been working on resolving this situation for a year now, and am having the shock revalved (Ohlins) to soften up on the compression damping. I have already softened the springs (two steps on the shock, one step on the fork - one side only), and am running the absolute minimum on shock compression damping currently until the shock is revalved. The roads in Italy this last summer when I drove around Bologna are glass smooth for the most part, and I don't think DNA tested sufficiently (if at all) on California-like bumpy roads. They were off on my 1198SP, and they are further off with the Ohlins-equipped 1199s.
 
check:

1.tire pressures
2. tire pressures at different temperatures (hotter or colder than normal)
3. sag
4. rebound
5. compression


then look at your tires again ;)
 
I wouldn't be too quick to condemn the tires. I am of the opinion that it is the suspension that is wholly inadequate in dealing with bumpy road surfaces. I have been working on resolving this situation for a year now, and am having the shock revalved (Ohlins) to soften up on the compression damping. I have already softened the springs (two steps on the shock, one step on the fork - one side only), and am running the absolute minimum on shock compression damping currently until the shock is revalved. The roads in Italy this last summer when I drove around Bologna are glass smooth for the most part, and I don't think DNA tested sufficiently (if at all) on California-like bumpy roads. They were off on my 1198SP, and they are further off with the Ohlins-equipped 1199s.

I changed my suspension from F to P for road use and it was a night and day difference for handling. I love it, I can feel everything the bike is doing under me. I feel the bike tracks so much better through the corner in both low and high speed situations... I am wayyyyy faster in P Mode! Did I mention how gracious my back is for it too?

And for the rubber? I will be using supercorsa's over and over.
 
AT LEAST FOR ME: i used the stock tires.....loved them......got 2800 miles out of them as well :) - moved on to PowerCups (A compound front B compound rear)....total overkill......but not complaining......the 200 measures a full 1 inch wider than the stock pirelli, it slows the steering down and i'd have to be on the track to think about using the final 1/2" on either side.....1 thing for sure....it transmits nothing but "you've got plenty of tire" anytime you're leaning over......i will try a 190 next...then maybe go back to stock (they just felt right, and i think i mean they felt light and more easily changed direction - a positive for some people depending on what you want i guess), but the Cups are hard to complain about :) they are all about grip
 
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BrisDuc, yes I agree that the switch from P to F makes a world of difference as far as softening the ride quality up. I may go back to P yet again. I would like to get it to perform properly under F (I only ride solo - my wife has her Monster) as all proper racing suspensions are set up this way, and progressive rates on street bikes tend to be massively progressive (due to the need to accommodate both single and two-up weight loads). Nonetheless, going back one final time before having the shock re-valved is probably a prudent move. Does anyone know the level of "progressiveness" in the link on both P and F positions? Most "flat" links are not purely flat anyway - just less progressive than average street link rates. Thanks BrisDuc for your input, and thanks in advance to any others for info regarding the link rates.
 
Yes thats correct. .

Actually you are incorrect.


These are top notch tires on the road.

What you are experiencing is personal prefference and or a suspension not properly tuned up.


Having run thse tires hard in the canyons on some very rough pavement, they are as good as it gets.



My next favorite tire is the Q2's and I bought 3's but they went with my last bike. On this one Q3's wil be next due to price alone.


If the SC's were the same price as Q3's i would never switch.
 
Exactly


Its what started my love affair with Dunlop again.


Im glad they fixed the tip in with the Q3's compared to the 2's. That was my only complaint with the 2's

Never rode the Q2's....loving the Q3's
 
I think that the pirellis are awesome on road and good trackday tires also. The q3 are also great but I think the Pirellis sticks a bit more. On the wet the q3 is unbeatable!
 
Never rode the Q2's....loving the Q3's

What I found was a little more midline stability then the SC's but you had to fight the tip in more due to that rounded profile. It supposed to be addressed in the 3's and I had a pair ready to be put on the 848 and sold it to get the 1199


the SP 2's should be a hot ticket as the are said to last a bit longer, but for the same high price as the standard SP's, im getting the Q3's .
 
What I found was a little more midline stability then the SC's but you had to fight the tip in more due to that rounded profile. It supposed to be addressed in the 3's and I had a pair ready to be put on the 848 and sold it to get the 1199


the SP 2's should be a hot ticket as the are said to last a bit longer, but for the same high price as the standard SP's, im getting the Q3's .



You should be able to get the Q3's for way cheaper than the SP's... I got a set for $278....
 
To those commenting on suspension, I agree 100% suspension is always the first key. However I have my bike 99.8% set up for me, from sag to compression and rebound. I have made more attempts to further adjust it in hopes of fine tuning it, however the issue while improved is still heavily there.

In regards to tire pressure, those are are referencing this, what tire pressures are you running, and for what environments?

Im open to suggestions, but thus far ive addressed everything It could be. Im not a Starbucks ducati owner, Im a heavy enthusiast and rider, so the major items mentioned ive addressed long before posting, but im willing to try a few forum members suggestions in regards to Tire Pressure, etc.
 
Again, strictly a matter of opinion here. I wouldn't run anything BUT the Pirelli's and have had fine results with mine. And yes, tire pressure is much more vital than most think so thanks for addressing this as well.
 
You should be able to get the Q3's for way cheaper than the SP's... I got a set for $278....

No kidding ;) I picked up my Q3's for the 848 for $223

With the 190 rear I know it will up the stakes.

No such thing as a cheap SP
 
To those commenting on suspension, I agree 100% suspension is always the first key. However I have my bike 99.8% set up for me, from sag to compression and rebound. I have made more attempts to further adjust it in hopes of fine tuning it, however the issue while improved is still heavily there.

In regards to tire pressure, those are are referencing this, what tire pressures are you running, and for what environments?

Im open to suggestions, but thus far ive addressed everything It could be. Im not a Starbucks ducati owner, Im a heavy enthusiast and rider, so the major items mentioned ive addressed long before posting, but im willing to try a few forum members suggestions in regards to Tire Pressure, etc.


I think i set mine to 32/31 first day I had mine, for street.
 
The SP rear is fine for occasional track use, the front...not so much. I highly recommend the SC1 front for safety reasons, the SP fades when pushed hard and temps go up.

Been getting excellent mileage from my scrubbed SC2 rears, too.
 
I see some much lower than recommended pressures posted here. Are these track or street pressures? On the street, with the stock Pirelli tires, I have found if you get it a couple pounds below the 33.4/38 recommendations (frame tag), it becomes a heavy pig. Put it back up to the factory pressures, and it gets light on its toes, and rolls into the corners very lightly. The down side is that it gets real harsh and bouncy on rough roads, but I still think I can sort that out with the suspension settings/modifications. Any thoughts on this?
 

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