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I highly recommend securing the front EVEN IF you’re using a Pitbull TRS. S____ happens so two points of contact are better than one.
 

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I like these straps and tie downs for the front. I use the triple tree as the point of contact.
 

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I had wheel hoops similar to these, but with without securing the front wheel it was possible for the rotors to hit the hoop. I took them out and been using soft ties off the lower triple with just enough tension (no load on suspension) to prevent the wheel from flopping. Thought maybe those wheel straps from Amazon might quicker/easier to install. Especially when both bikes are in the 6'x10' trailer. For $15 apiece I might just give them a try. Probably one of the cheapest trailering accessories I'll buy.
Thanks all!
 
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Has anyone tied down a bike as the Baxley instructions show? How did it go?

I have a new trailer on the way and am sorting out tie downs and all that nonsense.

I have a Pitbull TRS, and am considering adding another. There’s a few reasons I’m considering using the Baxley with its bolt down kit. Cost, universal style - works with all bikes, keeps both wheels stationary and can easily be repositioned in the trailer depending on how many bikes I’m hauling for load distribution purposes.

Works fine. Just need the chock to be mounted to the floor or pinned against a front wall. Pulling the bike forward into the chock compresses the front end. For extra safety, you can either tie the front rim to the chock upright so the front wheel can't back out of the chock or tie down the front end conventionally with a little added compression to keep the straps taught.

I use Condor e-track chocks instead of Baxley chocks for this. The e-track mounting makes it possible to have a lot more placement flexibility.
 
I highly recommend securing the front EVEN IF you’re using a Pitbull TRS. S____ happens so two points of contact are better than one.

The pics show why this is not a good way to mount a TRS on the trailer. The TRS can be mounted so the frame goes in front of the rear tire as opposed to behind the tire. Not as convenient to load/unload a bike with the TRS setup this way but the mount torques the trailer frame, rather than the folding hinged tail.

I would not tow a bike on a trailer with the TRS mounted the way it is mounted in your pictures.
 
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Has anyone used this on the front wheel while using the Pitbull TRS. I'm looking to keep the front wheel/handlebars from flopping around inside a tight trailer. Looks like it would be easier than running straps from the forks.
TIA!
I have run Pitbull TRS for over 10 years in my 7’x14’ trailer, which is tightly packed with 4 bikes with Bursig stands strapped to them, a rollaway and all the other crap needed for track day weekends and long cross country track day vacations. I usually bring 4 sport bikes but have also had 5, and sometimes I bring my Multistrada and/or my friends R1300GS mixed in with the other bikes. I’ve probably done 200 plus trips packed this way.
I don’t tie down the front, and it has never been a problem. I think the front stays put because the TRS is locked into the rear axle and prevents the bike from moving side to side Also, I think that having the suspension free to operate absorbs shocks and vibration that wouldn’t be mitigated when using tiedowns and pretensioning the bike's suspension. That is the beauty of the Pitbull system.
The pic posted in this thread shows a failure of a folding trailer, and I don’t know if it is engineered to handle the load on that section of the trailer. I suppose the pic is proof that it is not. I have a 3/4” plywood floor on my ramp door trailer and it is holding up fine.
If you have a standard trailer with proper decking you don’t need to tie down the front.
 
The pics show why this is not a good way to mount a TRS on the trailer. The TRS can be mounted so the frame goes in front of the rear tire as opposed to behind the tire. Not as convenient to load/unload a bike with the TRS setup this way but the mount torques the trailer frame, rather than the folding hinged tail.

I would not tow a bike on a trailer with the TRS mounted the way it is mounted in your pictures.

I have had it mounted both directions. I agree with you that the TRS and Kendon trailers only work if the TRS is in front of the rear wheel. I want to emphasize your comment though about how inconvenient that method is. It’s extremely inconvenient. In fact, it’s so inconvenient that it’s almost not worth it.
 
Two points with trailering. I have been hauling bikes since the early 70s and have towed 1000s of miles, all the way to Maine, Bonneville, and Northern California. In the old days it was either a board at the front or a simple hoop, the only common part was Ancra tie downs. In the last year I screwed up and ordered some Ancra soft ties from Amazon. When I was leaving California heading back to Arkansas I used the new soft ties for the first time on my beautiful 1973 Egli Honda. At our first stop in Arizona I opened the trailer only to find the bike on its side. The soft ties that showed up on my phone as Ancra were a Chi Com brand that would hold 5000 pounds, but not a 500# bike in my case. So I learned a $2000 lesson on making sure the package always says Ancra. Next, the fancy adjustable wheel chocks ALWAYS need to be adjusted to the front wheel size. Normally I have a bike with 17" front wheels, but an 18 or 19" front will allow the bike to tumble before you get the first tie down on there, so always adjust for a perfect fit. As to the drawing with just rear tie downs, I want belt and suspenders and will always use four of them.
 
I have had it mounted both directions. I agree with you that the TRS and Kendon trailers only work if the TRS is in front of the rear wheel. I want to emphasize your comment though about how inconvenient that method is. It’s extremely inconvenient. In fact, it’s so inconvenient that it’s almost not worth it.
Almost not worth it.. until your bike disappears
TRS with attachment reversed to the front just means you have to move the bike 2" forward first, still way quicker and more secure than any straps situation.
And as Arsey said, leaving the front free is one of the reasons these systems work so well, allowing the bike to move and absorb naturally. If there's an issue with potential contact (as with 2x Streetfighters staggered in my little enclosed), I just put a bar strap on one bar end with a bungee to influence it. Many miles on unbelievably rough roads with no issue or damage to the bike.
Wish I had one of these back when I was in motocross 35 years ago
 
Two points with trailering. I have been hauling bikes since the early 70s and have towed 1000s of miles, all the way to Maine, Bonneville, and Northern California. In the old days it was either a board at the front or a simple hoop, the only common part was Ancra tie downs. In the last year I screwed up and ordered some Ancra soft ties from Amazon. When I was leaving California heading back to Arkansas I used the new soft ties for the first time on my beautiful 1973 Egli Honda. At our first stop in Arizona I opened the trailer only to find the bike on its side. The soft ties that showed up on my phone as Ancra were a Chi Com brand that would hold 5000 pounds, but not a 500# bike in my case. So I learned a $2000 lesson on making sure the package always says Ancra. Next, the fancy adjustable wheel chocks ALWAYS need to be adjusted to the front wheel size. Normally I have a bike with 17" front wheels, but an 18 or 19" front will allow the bike to tumble before you get the first tie down on there, so always adjust for a perfect fit. As to the drawing with just rear tie downs, I want belt and suspenders and will always use four of them.

Ouch too bad about the Egli.

I have 3 towing setups. A Kendon trailer, a trailer with e-track and chocks set up to haul size full size bikes, and my pickup truck which is setup to haul two bikes, using Condor e-track chocks and/or TRS frames. I've been towing a lot (~10K miles per year) during the past few years. Tow all sorts of stuff. Dirt bikes, sportbikes, sportourers, adventure bikes, street trackers. Often times rare bikes, exotics, homologation specials and customs.

One of the things I learned over the years is when towing a bike in a chock with four straps, it is important to have all the straps pull down and forward. Many people mistakenly have the front straps pull the bike down and forward into the chock and have the rear straps pull the bike down and rearward. The issue with this arrangement is if one of the front straps fails or comes loose, the rear straps can pull the bike backwards out of the chock leading to it falling over. When all the straps pull down and forward, the bike is pulled down and forward into the chock and held upright even if 2 straps on opposite sides of the bike fail.
 
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I have run Pitbull TRS for over 10 years in my 7’x14’ trailer, which is tightly packed with 4 bikes with Bursig stands strapped to them, a rollaway and all the other crap needed for track day weekends and long cross country track day vacations.
How tightly was that packed? I have a 6x14 and am hoping to haul 4 bikes for an event. Can you share a pic?
 
How tightly was that packed? I have a 6x14 and am hoping to haul 4 bikes for an event. Can you share a pic?

Can't find a pic. My trailer is 7x16 and it was tight side to side and took a long time to load and unload. At 6x14 your trailer should work fine for 4 bikes as long as nose to tail the rear tire of the back bike is no more than 14' away from the front tire of the lead bike. 3' width for each bike is fine unless the bikes have more than 3' wide bars. Things can be a little longer since the rear tire can hang off the back of the trailer. You also may be able to stagger the front bike and rear bike slightly to fit longer bikes, but depending on the bikes and where the exhaust pipes land, this may not work well. A surer way to accommodate longer bikes is to use PitBull TRS units to hold the bikes up. Since these units allow the front wheel to float free, you can steer the bike to full lock to shorten the length and/or stagger a bike. Typically when people do this, they use the steering lock or a bungee cord to hold the steering at full lock.
 
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