Track junkies: Tire warmers choice?

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Hi folks,

Simple question: What tire warmer solution have you opted for your V4 and why?
 
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Moto D, Chicken Hawk or Woodcraft. Cap it if you can afford them.

Moto D because I know owner Scott and he rides. Warmers are consistent and thin so they won't get snagged on fenders or chain. Probably one of the best for accurate and consistent even heating of the tire.

Woodcraft because I also know Owner Eric who designs his products from a racer's standpoint. Bulkier than Moto D but stay much warmer unplugged. Better quilting.

Chicken Hawk because they have been around forever. They do little else other than concentrate on warmers. Most popular in the paddock. Pitbull stand of tire warmers.

Cap it supposed to be superior quality and craftsmanship to the others mentioned, but pricey. I have no experience with them other than some customers swearing by them.

Just my .02 cents
 
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Anyone will work. Your looking for 80 degrees C
Use tyre blankets so rim also warms up. I stay on warmers for 1hour minimum before a race with blankets.

A track day is nice as you get a two lap easy pace to get to temps.
 
Not sure what the price is on these, but they are digital and there is an inside flap that goes over the rim to heat it up/keep it warm as well. I might give these a go for my next set. The LEDs are a nice touch to see where you are at temperature wise from a glance.

A lot of the GP teams use these warmers and seem to be more prevalent across the pond.

Web:
Evo Tri Zone - Thermal Technology Race

PDF:
http://www.thermaltechrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Brochure-TT-2017-ENG-web.pdf

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I use Woodcraft and cant complain.
They are duel temp.
MADE IN USA
 
Not sure what the price is on these, but they are digital and there is an inside flap that goes over the rim to heat it up/keep it warm as well. I might give these a go for my next set. The LEDs are a nice touch to see where you are at temperature wise from a glance.

A lot of the GP teams use these warmers and seem to be more prevalent across the pond.

Web:
Evo Tri Zone - Thermal Technology Race

PDF:
http://www.thermaltechrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Brochure-TT-2017-ENG-web.pdf


***EDIT***
Link on 44teeth page for 10% off - 44Rewards -

Those Evo Tri Zone warmers are looking hot and seem apex predators! And I was thinking Capits to be premium and pricey! Wonder what's the advantage of having the rim also warmed up?!
 
Thanks! I was eyeing those! Those are Capits right but branded Ducati! I don't seem to find enough tech details on them, like max temp, coil number/shape etc

As I am a quite new member, it seems I am not allowed to post a link :D

You can google on "Capit Suprema Spina", as it are the same warmers. 85°C, no thermostate
Watch out for size, as I heard a 200-one will just fit a 200-55 tyre (like s1000rr). So look specifically for Ducati V4's!
 
I have MotoD, they get the job done, but rear tire is too big for the warmer. If I were to do it again, I would have gotten one that fits better 60 profile tire without massive stretching you need to do.
 
A part from quality of manufacture , to many people miss the point of the purpose of tire warmers. You heat the tire (rim too if you can) to the temp that you can achieve on track that day. I'm in C so bear with me, if you can guess that your tires are going to be off track at 55 degrees that is the T you need to set your manufacturers pressure. If you come off track at 90 degrees that is the T to set your presssure at .
Example is ..... you turn on your pre set tire warmer and it goes to 90 you set your Pirelli rear to 28 psi , you go out on track and it is cold and you have 50 degrees on your tire the pressure is going to be way under 28 psi and have cold tear.
Solution is.... 1st session, set (from experience) where you think the day is going to heat your tires to , and set your warmers to , (in this scenario 50 degrees) then set to manufacture recommended psi. Suggest to then dial warmers up another 20 degrees to allow for garage to track and a couple of slower laps to start .
You are going to struggle to do this with warmers that locked into a pre set T .
 
A part from quality of manufacture , to many people miss the point of the purpose of tire warmers. You heat the tire (rim too if you can) to the temp that you can achieve on track that day. I'm in C so bear with me, if you can guess that your tires are going to be off track at 55 degrees that is the T you need to set your manufacturers pressure. If you come off track at 90 degrees that is the T to set your presssure at .
Example is ..... you turn on your pre set tire warmer and it goes to 90 you set your Pirelli rear to 28 psi , you go out on track and it is cold and you have 50 degrees on your tire the pressure is going to be way under 28 psi and have cold tear.
Solution is.... 1st session, set (from experience) where you think the day is going to heat your tires to , and set your warmers to , (in this scenario 50 degrees) then set to manufacture recommended psi. Suggest to then dial warmers up another 20 degrees to allow for garage to track and a couple of slower laps to start .
You are going to struggle to do this with warmers that locked into a pre set T .

You make a fair point as the temperature impacts tire pressure but I think it is also fair to aim at the optimal operating temperature of the tire & it's corresponding pressure. I have no experience with tire warmers but a 90 to 50 C drop seems a lot. What would the track temp usually be and how soft you have to ride the bike in order to obtain only 50C in tire?

I'm asking because I have a feeling it would have to be damn cold out there to create such a big impact. According to my calculations in your scenario the PSI would drop from 28 to 21ish.

Also, if you happen to track your bike in such cold weather, wouldn't it be more appropriate to do a couple of laps to slowly warm up the tires and then do a couple of 90% ones and then go back and read the tire temp with a temp gun?
 
Since your inside Europe, I really like my racefoxx tire warmers. Dual temp, good price, they warm up very quick, and you see most people in the paddock in Europe using them.

https://www.racefoxx.com/Home
this is a not like. i dont recommend buying anything there.
Example?
(in front: racefuxx, rubber!!!
behind :spider, aluminium)
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i also had voltage on the rim with there tire warmers.
replaced under warranty with no Problems, but this is a nogo.
 
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I have used Woodcraft, the wires in the front seem to catch and pull on the front fender and fail, two in the past two years.
I know the owner Eric very well and ride with him all season, season after season. He stands by his product.
I recently picked up a set of Chicken Hawn Duel temp. The top material frayed and is going to fail quickly, cheaper material, but good design as far as wire placements.

Other choice is Moto- D i have not tried them yet

Option D - change front tire hugger or file it down
 
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