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when i bought my first motorcycle years ago the man who sold it to me was an old-timer with vast experience and we got friendly and he ended up rebuilding my engine with me and teaching me along the way about motorcycles...anyhow i digress. one day he turned to me and said, " you know, motorcyclists tend to fall into two groups: morons and geniuses."

not all generalizations are equal, if you catch my meaning.....
 
when i bought my first motorcycle years ago the man who sold it to me was an old-timer with vast experience and we got friendly and he ended up rebuilding my engine with me and teaching me along the way about motorcycles...anyhow i digress. one day he turned to me and said, " you know, motorcyclists tend to fall into two groups: morons and geniuses."

not all generalizations are equal, if you catch my meaning.....

Genius here :D
 
when i bought my first motorcycle years ago the man who sold it to me was an old-timer with vast experience and we got friendly and he ended up rebuilding my engine with me and teaching me along the way about motorcycles...anyhow i digress. one day he turned to me and said, " you know, motorcyclists tend to fall into two groups: morons and geniuses."

not all generalizations are equal, if you catch my meaning.....

I do...but @Sloopys generalisations fall into the sweeping "I cant believe you just said that" category...:)
 
I find that most cyclist more than pay their fair share. While not paying fuel tax they pay many other taxes. In many cases they transport their bikes to favorite riding locations in cars which have all the same responsibilities as the rest.

As a group road cyclist have higher income and pay more taxes than many other groups. They tend to be well insured and their riding is often covered by their other insurance. Most have umbrella coverage in the 2 to 5 million range.

As with most things now a days it seems that everyone is only concerned about themselves and F everyone else. We all share the road and when I take my MC out I do not ride slow, however I do not own the road so I ride accordingly. We all get stuck in traffic behind some yahoo, however they have the same rights so maybe we should learn to be a little more tolerant.

Wow, that is not my experience. I wonder exactly what insurance policy you think would cover it, but for some umbrella policy that covers general liability. And how many riders do you honestly think have a 2-5 million umbrella policy? Where are you riding?

And yes tollerance. But that is the point, I go to great lenghts to be safe to me and considerate and safe to others around me. A cyclist who rides on a tight mountain road knows, or should know, they are creating a hazard, and yet they do it anyway. I would never do that, I would be ashamed of myself. I never buy the line, they have a right. Well you have the right to be the in the KKK, you have the right to watch somebody else's child get hit by a bus right in front of you and do nothing. Rarely is having the "right" to do something a good indicator of whether you SHOULD do something.

So yes, I find the activity, particular on tight mountain roads, to be dangerous. I would LOVE to remove that "right". And at this point, I see no need to be tolerant of those who willingly endanger and inconvenience others because they have a right to. Well, scratch that, clearly I am tolerant, I don't kill them or in any way harrass them. That is to tolerate, to allow to exist. That doesn't mean I have to give any respect to what they are doing, or try to convince them that they are being dangerous and to go to that activity in a safer place that has the room for safe passing of vehicles.
 
when i bought my first motorcycle years ago the man who sold it to me was an old-timer with vast experience and we got friendly and he ended up rebuilding my engine with me and teaching me along the way about motorcycles...anyhow i digress. one day he turned to me and said, " you know, motorcyclists tend to fall into two groups: morons and geniuses."

not all generalizations are equal, if you catch my meaning.....

Hell, that can be said for the entire world. Depending on the time of day, I am either a moron that thinks I'm a genius, or a genius that thinks I'm a moron. Of course the old Steve Carlin point holds true, anybody who is driving faster than me is an ......., and anybody driving slower than me is a moron.
 
i say let everyone do anything they want. autobahn has no speed limits and what's mortality rate per mile travelled on that speedway?

cyclists want to ride tight mountainous roads so be it -- if they get run over on a tight blind spot as they drifted toward the middle so be it -- just don't sue the driver sporting the splattered cyclists blood all over their grill and hood. and if the driver swerved out of the cyclists' way and killed the motorcyclist then both cyclist and driver would be at fault. make the cyclist liable. but that would be too fair and too simple.

i have to wipe the drool off my chin now...
 
i say let everyone do anything they want. autobahn has no speed limits and what's mortality rate per mile travelled on that speedway?

cyclists want to ride tight mountainous roads so be it -- if they get run over on a tight blind spot as they drifted toward the middle so be it -- just don't sue the driver sporting the splattered cyclists blood all over their grill and hood. and if the driver swerved out of the cyclists' way and killed the motorcyclist then both cyclist and driver would be at fault. make the cyclist liable. but that would be too fair and too simple.

i have to wipe the drool off my chin now...

Do you know what it takes to get a license in Germany? They also have intelligent, strict rules to follow.

You can't compare people who actually are qualified to operate a vehicle.

The German autobahn network is patrolled by unmarked police cars and motorcycles equipped with video cameras; this allows the enforcement of laws (such as tailgating). Notable laws include the following.


  • The right lane should be used when it is free (Rechtsfahrgebot) and the left lane is generally intended only for overtaking, unless traffic is too dense to justify driving only on the right lane; drivers using the far left lane for prolonged periods of time when all other lanes are free could be fined by the Autobahnpolizei.
  • Forcing slow drivers on the left-hand lane to change lane (even if they are occupying it illegally), for example by flashing or tailgating, could be considered coercion and is best avoided.
  • Overtaking on the right (undertaking) is strictly forbidden, except when stuck in traffic jams. Up to a speed of 60 km/h (37 mph) it is permitted to pass cars on the right side if the speed difference is not greater than 20 km/h (12 mph) or the vehicle on the left lane is stationary. This is not referred to as overtaking, but driving past. Even if the car overtaken is illegally occupying the left-hand lane, it is not an acceptable excuse; in such cases the police will routinely stop and fine both drivers. However, exceptions are and have sometimes been made.
  • In a traffic jam, drivers must form an emergency lane to allow emergency services to reach an accident scene. This "lane" is the middle of the left two lanes.
  • It is unlawful to stop for any reason on the autobahn, except for emergencies and when unavoidable, like traffic jams or being involved in an accident. This includes stopping on emergency lanes. Running out of fuel is considered an avoidable occurrence, as by law there are petrol stations directly on the autobahn approximately every 50–55 km (31–34 mi). Drivers may face fines and a driving licence removal for up to 6 months should it come to a stop that was deemed unnecessary by the police. In some cases (if there is direct danger to life and limb or property e.g. cars and highway infrastructure) it may also be considered a crime and the driver could receive a prison sentence (up to 5 years).
  • There is a general duty to rescue in Germany. If there is an accident, a driver is obliged to stop and help, whenever and to the degree to which it is possible. Doctors, even if they are not Germans or living in Germany, are obliged to stop and help, unless an ambulance is already at the scene.
  • First aid training is mandatory in order to obtain a driving licence in Germany.
  • Fines for tailgating were increased in May 2006. At speeds over 100 km/h (62 mph), keeping less than 30 percent of the recommended safety distance (which should be about 100 metres, and longer at higher speeds) now results in a suspension of the offender's driving licence for up to three months. As such, overtaking on the right side or on the emergency lane can't be fined as hard as tailgating. Foreign drivers may be fined on the spot, their foreign licences confiscated (although not as frequent as German licences) and rental car agreements may be immediately cancelled (the renter also loses all insurance and has to come up with all liabilities).
  • Due to legal regulations (Straßenverkehrsordnung) it is legal to flash headlights (Lichthupe) in order to indicate the intention of overtaking, but a proper distance to the vehicle in front must be maintained. Driving at insufficient distances and constantly or repeatedly flashing headlights are also considered to be coercion and the driver can get fined. In severe cases, this might be regarded as a crime and the driver may be arrested and face a court trial where they can be sentenced to up to three years in prison.
  • The tires must be approved for the vehicle's top speed; winter tires (mud + snow) for lower speeds (i.e. cheaper than high-speed tyres) are allowed, but the driver must have a sticker in the vehicle reminding of the maximum speed.
  • During the winter months winter tires are compulsory. M+S tires (mud and snow or all-season) are acceptable. Non-compliance would lead to legal consequences in the event of an accident and will result in problems with insurance coverage. During the winter months, or whenever winter conditions are present, rental companies in Germany are required to equip their rental cars with winter tires specifically designed for each vehicle (although the cost of that can be transferred to the renter, on a daily rate).
 
As with most things now a days it seems that everyone is only concerned about themselves and F everyone else. We all share the road and when I take my MC out I do not ride slow, however I do not own the road so I ride accordingly. We all get stuck in traffic behind some yahoo, however they have the same rights so maybe we should learn to be a little more tolerant.

I agree with you Sloopy. We ride motorbikes which have 0 to 60 mph acceleration in 2.6 seconds, probably better brakes than anything else on the road, our Ducatis are as narrow as bicycles. Overtaking a car or cyclist takes few seconds at most.

We do not own the roads. I do not really like the cyclists on the road but I do not also like the trucks, horses, nor white vans or mums updating their Facebook while they are driving. There is nothing I can do about that apart from adjusting my riding accordingly. Part of the fun for me is to ride as safe as I can while avoiding the ......... And then go as fast as I can go when the road is open.

In my opinion it is slightly selfish to claim the roads for us only because we want to take a particular corner fast on a public road. For the OP, you did well to avoid the truck. The truck driver should not have crossed to your side of the road in a blind corner. But they do and we have to be prepared for that.
 
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excellent. especially the tailgating.

yes drivers in USSA would be cut in half if they had to show any competence. it's really a losing battle here when you factor in the incompetence, texting and tweeting and general idiocy. and the taxis here jesus there'd be like 90% less of them...



Do you know what it takes to get a license in Germany? They also have intelligent, strict rules to follow.

You can't compare people who actually are qualified to operate a vehicle.

The German autobahn network is patrolled by unmarked police cars and motorcycles equipped with video cameras; this allows the enforcement of laws (such as tailgating). Notable laws include the following.


  • The right lane should be used when it is free (Rechtsfahrgebot) and the left lane is generally intended only for overtaking, unless traffic is too dense to justify driving only on the right lane; drivers using the far left lane for prolonged periods of time when all other lanes are free could be fined by the Autobahnpolizei.
  • Forcing slow drivers on the left-hand lane to change lane (even if they are occupying it illegally), for example by flashing or tailgating, could be considered coercion and is best avoided.
  • Overtaking on the right (undertaking) is strictly forbidden, except when stuck in traffic jams. Up to a speed of 60 km/h (37 mph) it is permitted to pass cars on the right side if the speed difference is not greater than 20 km/h (12 mph) or the vehicle on the left lane is stationary. This is not referred to as overtaking, but driving past. Even if the car overtaken is illegally occupying the left-hand lane, it is not an acceptable excuse; in such cases the police will routinely stop and fine both drivers. However, exceptions are and have sometimes been made.
  • In a traffic jam, drivers must form an emergency lane to allow emergency services to reach an accident scene. This "lane" is the middle of the left two lanes.
  • It is unlawful to stop for any reason on the autobahn, except for emergencies and when unavoidable, like traffic jams or being involved in an accident. This includes stopping on emergency lanes. Running out of fuel is considered an avoidable occurrence, as by law there are petrol stations directly on the autobahn approximately every 50–55 km (31–34 mi). Drivers may face fines and a driving licence removal for up to 6 months should it come to a stop that was deemed unnecessary by the police. In some cases (if there is direct danger to life and limb or property e.g. cars and highway infrastructure) it may also be considered a crime and the driver could receive a prison sentence (up to 5 years).
  • There is a general duty to rescue in Germany. If there is an accident, a driver is obliged to stop and help, whenever and to the degree to which it is possible. Doctors, even if they are not Germans or living in Germany, are obliged to stop and help, unless an ambulance is already at the scene.
  • First aid training is mandatory in order to obtain a driving licence in Germany.
  • Fines for tailgating were increased in May 2006. At speeds over 100 km/h (62 mph), keeping less than 30 percent of the recommended safety distance (which should be about 100 metres, and longer at higher speeds) now results in a suspension of the offender's driving licence for up to three months. As such, overtaking on the right side or on the emergency lane can't be fined as hard as tailgating. Foreign drivers may be fined on the spot, their foreign licences confiscated (although not as frequent as German licences) and rental car agreements may be immediately cancelled (the renter also loses all insurance and has to come up with all liabilities).
  • Due to legal regulations (Straßenverkehrsordnung) it is legal to flash headlights (Lichthupe) in order to indicate the intention of overtaking, but a proper distance to the vehicle in front must be maintained. Driving at insufficient distances and constantly or repeatedly flashing headlights are also considered to be coercion and the driver can get fined. In severe cases, this might be regarded as a crime and the driver may be arrested and face a court trial where they can be sentenced to up to three years in prison.
  • The tires must be approved for the vehicle's top speed; winter tires (mud + snow) for lower speeds (i.e. cheaper than high-speed tyres) are allowed, but the driver must have a sticker in the vehicle reminding of the maximum speed.
  • During the winter months winter tires are compulsory. M+S tires (mud and snow or all-season) are acceptable. Non-compliance would lead to legal consequences in the event of an accident and will result in problems with insurance coverage. During the winter months, or whenever winter conditions are present, rental companies in Germany are required to equip their rental cars with winter tires specifically designed for each vehicle (although the cost of that can be transferred to the renter, on a daily rate).
 
I wouldn't print it if I didn't know the facts. If you want to check my general info, maybe we would all be enlightened.

I would imagine that the ones against cyclist have no idea the price of the bicycles they fly by.
 
Do you know what it takes to get a license in Germany? They also have intelligent, strict rules to follow.

You can't compare people who actually are qualified to operate a vehicle.

The German autobahn network is patrolled by unmarked police cars and motorcycles equipped with video cameras; this allows the enforcement of laws (such as tailgating). Notable laws include the following.

Last time I drove in Germany, I pretty much kept my BMW sedan floored until it hit the fuel cutoff - people do pretty much stay outa the fast lanes, lucyk for me! :D There police do look scarier than ours, they carry carbines!
 

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