Tuneboy downshifter

fireman1251 · Mar 17, 2015

Has anyone installed the downshifter offered by Tuneboy?

I'm really interested in getting my bike tuned and find the system very appealing.

Sergio1199Panigale · Mar 17, 2015

fireman1251 said:
Has anyone installed the downshifter offered by Tuneboy?

I'm really interested in getting my bike tuned and find the system very appealing.

Yes. A few of us have a thread or two going with pics of the BlipH and BlipL tabs in the TB Trim program where you fine tune the height of the throttle blip in throttle percentage. We have all lowered the numbers significantly since when you install it and run it at default we all have gotten slight surges forward on the clutchless downshifts. We have all made good progress towards surge-free downshifts. I'm 90% there with surges only rare in various rpm and gears. Works prett good in the canyons and can't wait for a track day.

fireman1251 · Mar 17, 2015

Pardon my ignorance, does one have to book dyno sessions every time you play with adjustments or is it possible for a guy with limited or no programming knowledge to work on stuff in his own garage?

crankman · Mar 17, 2015

fireman1251 said:
Pardon my ignorance, does one have to book dyno sessions every time you play with adjustments or is it possible for a guy with limited or no programming knowledge to work on stuff in his own garage?

No need for dyno session to set up the shifter, its really easy to make adjustments yourself, then go try them out, in fact because you can load three trim files at a time (trim files contain the shift tables) to the bikes ECU you load up different shift tables in each , go test the bike on the road or track selecting each one of the three files it speeds the process up.
As Sergio said we have a thread going on this topic so that should help you a lot if you decide to go ahead, or you can always contact me and I will offer any help I can
Good luck !

Sergio1199Panigale · Mar 17, 2015

I had no programming knowledge whatsoever and after a very rough 4 or 5 hours, I figured this system out. So if you're inclined, go for it! It's very difficult to screw your bike up since you can always load a previous tune or trim or go back to oem.

Gecko · Mar 17, 2015

crankman said:
No need for dyno session to set up the shifter, its really easy to make adjustments yourself, then go try them out, in fact because you can load three trim files at a time (trim files contain the shift tables) to the bikes ECU you load up different shift tables in each , go test the bike on the road or track selecting each one of the three files it speeds the process up.
As Sergio said we have a thread going on this topic so that should help you a lot if you decide to go ahead, or you can always contact me and I will offer any help I can
Good luck !

It's exactly what makes me so reluctant to buy tuneboy stuff. Why the heck have the customers have to find out the propper settings for the functions "supported" for a specific bike. And nobody seems to be happy with the tuneboy support...
That reminds me to the 90's, when thousands of people were tweaking around with their PCs relocating DLLs trying to optimize their computer with limited amount of RAM.

crankman · Mar 17, 2015

Gecko said:
It's exactly what makes me so reluctant to buy tuneboy stuff. Why the heck have the customers have to find out the propper settings for the functions "supported" for a specific bike. And nobody seems to be happy with the tuneboy support...
That reminds me to the 90's, when thousands of people were tweaking around with their PCs relocating DLLs trying to optimize their computer with limited amount of RAM.

I would not be reluctant to buy tuneboy on the basis of the quickshifter setup, there is nothing difficult at all about making adjustments and as far as "proper settings" well I am not sure there is such a thing, what you may like as a setup may be completely different to what I like, tuneboy allows you to customise the setup to your own liking. Cruise and Tune works really well and is easy to install , no modules to fit to bike, a stack of tune and trim files supplied , the ability to "auto tune " with the addition of wide band o2 sensors , the ability to customise fuel and ignition maps yourself if you have the skills or custom tune on the dyno and the ability to reset service lights.
About the support I can agree , it could and should be better.

Sergio1199Panigale · Mar 17, 2015

Gecko said:
It's exactly what makes me so reluctant to buy tuneboy stuff. Why the heck have the customers have to find out the propper settings for the functions "supported" for a specific bike. And nobody seems to be happy with the tuneboy support...
That reminds me to the 90's, when thousands of people were tweaking around with their PCs relocating DLLs trying to optimize their computer with limited amount of RAM.

I'm shocked I actually went through with the purchase lol. If it weren't for the big Xmas sale I probably would've stayed away haha. After all is said and done, I'm mostly happy lol.

The customer service is horrendous and it is ludicrous that customers have to figure out how to use the damn stuff by ourselves. It's almost like TB thinks they're selling to vendors, dealerships, or distributors instead of regular Joes.

baccullus · Mar 17, 2015

Sergio1199Panigale said:
Yes. A few of us have a thread or two going with pics of the BlipH and BlipL tabs in the TB Trim program where you fine tune the height of the throttle blip in throttle percentage. We have all lowered the numbers significantly since when you install it and run it at default we all have gotten slight surges forward on the clutchless downshifts. We have all made good progress towards surge-free downshifts. I'm 90% there with surges only rare in various rpm and gears. Works prett good in the canyons and can't wait for a track day.

Sergio: Do You have a link to this tread?

b9009b · Mar 17, 2015

baccullus said:
Sergio: Do You have a link to this tread?

QS Thread

http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/20845-tuneboy-qs-screen-pics.html

Trauma · Mar 17, 2015

Sergio1199Panigale said:
I had no programming knowledge whatsoever and after a very rough 4 or 5 hours, I figured this system out. So if you're inclined, go for it! It's very difficult to screw your bike up since you can always load a previous tune or trim or go back to oem.

How do you go back to OEM? You mean the OEM tune?

bp7178 · Mar 17, 2015

Yes, the stock "map" or standard ECU firmware is included. The instructions even note that some may prefer to flash back to stock when/if the bike is going to the dealership.

I was interested in Tuneboy more for the ability to clear service/oil change lights more than anything else at first. The ability to load/change the air & fuel trim was just icing.

For the $300 the dealer wanted for the first oil change, I had a Tuneboy setup. It wasn't the expense of the first service that bothered me, it was the value of it. For the same money I could increase my capability to work on the bike.

I did go back and add the cruise control...man that is one epic feature. So nice on long trips.

fireman1251 · Mar 17, 2015

Is there any hardware required to go to clutchless downshifts? One might think the OEM quick shifter might have to be replaced.

And was the fueling tune a big improvement from stock?

baccullus · Mar 17, 2015

fireman1251 said:
Is there any hardware required to go to clutchless downshifts? One might think the OEM quick shifter might have to be replaced.

And was the fueling tune a big improvement from stock?

You need to switch to a strain gauge quickshifter Cordona etc. They works both ways.

bp7178 · Mar 17, 2015

Yes, the stock QS is replaced.

The Tuneboy strain QS uses a O2 sensor plug IIRC.

The fueling changes are incremental, but do have a better feeling than stock.

crankman · Mar 17, 2015

fireman1251 said:
Is there any hardware required to go to clutchless downshifts? One might think the OEM quick shifter might have to be replaced.

And was the fueling tune a big improvement from stock?

Yes you do need to go with the tuneboy strain gauge which works in both up and down shifting , the software then allows you to adjust the shift pressures for both up and down independently as well as the ability to adjust the amount of ignition kill time on the upshift.
Yes I would say the fueling tune is an improvement,you have the ability to select from the included tunes that cover a lot of the common setups these bikes run , e.g. termi's or akro's ,db killers in or out etc. Of course the best result will be had by having your bike dyno tuned and a custom map created for your setup. That is where I will head myself soon!

kaido · Mar 17, 2015

Gecko said:
It's exactly what makes me so reluctant to buy tuneboy stuff. Why the heck have the customers have to find out the propper settings for the functions "supported" for a specific bike. And nobody seems to be happy with the tuneboy support...
That reminds me to the 90's, when thousands of people were tweaking around with their PCs relocating DLLs trying to optimize their computer with limited amount of RAM.

This is definitely where people have issue with tuneboy but i think what people forget is they are supplying a tunable ecu, Any Tune or Setup they supply will be a generic Map and may not work for you.

If you are going to spend $500+ on a ecu you need to spend the extra cash to have someone tune it for you.

My tuner did all my work on my tuneboy, and is always happy to adjust it to suit my needs, and i have never had an issue

baccullus · Mar 18, 2015

bp7178 said:
Yes, the stock QS is replaced.

The Tuneboy strain QS uses a O2 sensor plug IIRC.

The fueling changes are incremental, but do have a better feeling than stock.

The Tuneboy strain gauge quick shifter is actually a Cordona. BTW they work very well. I had one on my 1098.

Sergio1199Panigale · Mar 18, 2015

Trauma said:
How do you go back to OEM? You mean the OEM tune?

You simply flash the stock std tune. I think it's coded "stick1" or something stupid like that. Or you can simply flash a previous trim file and start from there again. Once you get going with the software you'll understand what we're talking about.

fireman1251 · Mar 20, 2015

Ok, went for it, downshifter and tuning software on their way....

Will be bugging you guys for help in a few weeks

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