V2 adds DWC/DTC during break-in period

I just thought I would post this for future reference if anyone is scratching their head after purchasing a V2 and not being able to clutch up a wheelie.

I found that my 2021 V2 could power up a 1-foot or so wheelie (approximate - did not measure, lol) in first gear when set to DWC 1 and DTC 2 using 100% throttle in Race mode. The front lifts when you hit the 7000+ RPM power range and then sets down nicely just before the limiter. If I tried a clutch wheelie or a power off / power on bounce wheelie, the bike just bogged down and refused to lift the front more than about 1 inch. Turning DTC and DWC off made zero difference when trying to wheelie the V2. These results did not make sense as others have been able to wheelie the V2 (and have video of them doing so).

A few days ago, my V2 popped up the service light since I had hit the 600+ miles required for the first service (which I already performed myself - need to get the light turned off). When taking off from a stoplight, I gave the gas a bit more and let the clutch pop a bit over a hump in the road to get the front to rise a bit. Instead of coming up about a 1/2 foot or so, the front wheel shot up well over two feet (I instinctually tapped the rear brake and all was good). Knowing this was not the norm, I did some testing. Well what do you know - the bike now clutches up a 2 o'clock wheelie in first when DWC is off. I also noticed the wheel coming up more often under hard acceleration with DWC set to 1.

Based on these results, it would appear that Ducati forces some DWC/DTC during the first 600 miles even if you turn them off. After the service light comes on (Dealership has not touched this bike, so no unrestrictive measures performed by them), the bike turns off the added nanny controls and honors the OFF settings for DWC/DTC. Hopefully, this helps others who may be confused as to why DWC/DTC set to off does not act as expected (I found many Internet posts where V2 owners turned off the settings and still could not wheelie the bike). Also, note that one could be greatly surprised if they are riding around full throttle with DWC/DTC off for the first 600 miles, and all of a sudden the bike starts reaching for the moon after hitting 600 miles.

I believe a better (safer) way to do this would be for Ducati to lock out the "off" settings until after the first 600 miles so the rider would understand that they are not really riding around with no wheelie or traction control during the so-called break-in period. I was pleased that the bike allowed me to clutch or power up a big wheelie when I wanted, but removing the nanny controls without alerting the rider seems reckless to me.

(Note: This thread is about the added DWC/DTC during the first 600 miles and is not about how to break in a bike or whether wheelies are good, bad, fun, or dangerous.)

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Very interesting…I know this is an older post, but it has me thinking. I was under the impression that the dealer had to remove the break-in restrictive measures during the first service.
Are you saying that it basically resets itself at 600 miles… it’s not necessary to have the dealer reset it, other than to get the service light to quit flashing?

Panigale V2 said:

Very interesting…I know this is an older post, but it has me thinking. I was under the impression that the dealer had to remove the break-in restrictive measures during the first service.
Are you saying that it basically resets itself at 600 miles… it’s not necessary to have the dealer reset it, other than to get the service light to quit flashing?

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Correct. For my 2021 V2, the change automatically took place once the service light came on. The very next full-throttle take-off sent my front wheel to the 11 o'clock position followed by a very quick slam on the rear brake by me. Poor move by Ducati to set a limit that overrides the TC/WC settings without telling the rider.

Wow! That is crazy for sure! Well thank you very much for the info, I know that I need to get the service light reset at 600 miles. I was just making sure that I didn’t need to also have something else reset at the same time. That is good info.

Panigale V2 said:

Wow! That is crazy for sure! Well thank you very much for the info, I know that I need to get the service light reset at 600 miles. I was just making sure that I didn’t need to also have something else reset at the same time. That is good info.

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Just FYI, I just passed over 1000km/600m and did not notice any difference. I feel there's some placebo to this personally

I guess that I will find out once I hit 600 miles. I’m planning to do the service on my own, I have plenty of experience changing the oil etc. on my Panigale 959 that I owned for years, but I’m going to pay to have the service light reset. I’ll report back once that happens and let you know if anything else needs to be updated at the same time.

Panigale V2 said:

I guess that I will find out once I hit 600 miles. I’m planning to do the service on my own, I have plenty of experience changing the oil etc. on my Panigale 959 that I owned for years, but I’m going to pay to have the service light reset. I’ll report back once that happens and let you know if anything else needs to be updated at the same time.

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I did the oil service myself as well, just waiting on nicer weather to head to the dealer to have them do the updates/clear the message. They said that if I bought the oil through them they would get rid of the message no charge so that is exactly what I am going to do.

I will report back after my dealer visit but so far I am at 1100 km and no perceived change since rolling over the 1000/600 mark.

thejellyo said:

Just FYI, I just passed over 1000km/600m and did not notice any difference. I feel there's some placebo to this personally

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There is definitely a difference. I had a little experiment going after he commented on one of my threads a few weeks back. Same results, before 670 miles, 6in to 1ft wheelies after, only limitation is your skills and the rear brake. I did the first service myself and own a Texa tool to clear my own service lights. I did the oil change at 450 miles but didn’t do anything to the ecu until 700 miles.

That is the way to go, to be able to clear my own service light. I’ve been doing some research, but you mentioned Texa, it’s obviously working well for you?

thejellyo said:

Just FYI, I just passed over 1000km/600m and did not notice any difference. I feel there's some placebo to this personally

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No placebo going on. I turned OFF my rider aids. TC and WC were OFF, not just set low. With TC and WC OFF I could rev the bike to 9K and dump the clutch in first gear. The bike would pop the front wheel about 6 inches off the ground and then just about throw you over the handlebars from killing all power. That is not placebo - that is the ECU ignoring the TC and WC OFF setting. After the service light came on, the same crazy act of dumping the clutch in first gear with TC and WC OFF would throw you over the back as the bike started to loop with a 6-foot high wheelie.

Simply put, try to clutch a wheelie with TC and WC OFF with a 2021+ Panigale V2 before the first service light and you will likely experience what I did, which is that you can't pop a wheelie. After the service light, you can.

Panigale V2 said:

That is the way to go, to be able to clear my own service light. I’ve been doing some research, but you mentioned Texa, it’s obviously working well for you?

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Yeah but it’s pricy only reason I could justify it is because I have multiple motorcycles n power sports vehicles to use it on.