V4 Brake MC

Paul G said:

We mod our bikes because it improves our riding experience and its really enjoyable. Other people collect stamps

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Paul G said:

Rider not bike

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craig bush said:

You’re asserting that because that dude eventually passed Sylvain, he’s the more skillful rider?

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craig bush said:

You’re asserting that because that dude eventually passed Sylvain, he’s the more skillful rider?

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andyb said:

Pecco Bagnaia trained in Portimao with road bike wasn't far from getting a new record

The Autodromo Internacional do Algarve hosted a series of MotoGP world riders who were there a few days ago to train on road bikes, with the presence...

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Pecco on a V4 at Portimao.....says its a std V4S ...........

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Paul G said:

Nah, I was showing what a skillful rider Guinters is, literally backing in and sliding that fat ...... pig of a bike around that tight circuit and probably doing a pretty respectable laptime. The guy on the racebike by his own admission had to work at it (at least a little bit)
Me on the Pani vs Guinters on the 'Busa- pretty sure he's going to win the trackday!

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craig bush said:

Quite a bit more impressive than the Valencia result (Pecco within 4 seconds of Fabio’s race record around Portimao). Four seconds is still almost the entire main straight though.

More than demonstrating how fast a modern production sbk is, this demonstrates the law of diminishing returns - to be a few seconds faster than a $30k production sbk, a wsbk costs nearly 10x as much, and to be a few seconds faster than a wsbk, a MotoGP bike costs nearly 10x as much again.

I don’t see anything particularly novel or surprising here. The law of diminishing returns is applicable to almost every human endeavor.

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SuperDomestique said:

Sounds like the advertising is growing on you hahaha!

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craig bush said:

Quite a bit more impressive than the Valencia result (Pecco within 4 seconds of Fabio’s race record around Portimao). Four seconds is still almost the entire main straight though.

More than demonstrating how fast a modern production sbk is, this demonstrates the law of diminishing returns - to be a few seconds faster than a $30k production sbk, a wsbk costs nearly 10x as much, and to be a few seconds faster than a wsbk, a MotoGP bike costs nearly 10x as much again.

I don’t see anything particularly novel or surprising here. The law of diminishing returns is applicable to almost every human endeavor.

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craig bush said:

Oh ok. I thought you insisted it’s the rider, not the bike. Now you saying that guy passed Sylvain only because the bike is better?

You’re so confusing Paul.

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Alkhater said:

4 seconds might be the entire main straight but it can also sometimes be the difference between pole and last on the grid.

SBK and GP bikes are only that much more expensive because they operate in a very different business model, not because they’re made of unobtanium or because each of their parts cost 100x more. When they say GP bikes cost millions they’re most likely talking about development, production and operating costs combined. I could even argue that production bikes cost even more to develop and produce but… because it’s an entirely different market they’re able to sell thousands of them.

What Pecco’s just demonstrated is that these bikes have no ....... reason to be road legal lol. That’s a damn impressive lap time.

The bike isn’t standard though… it’s got a race exhaust and slicks for sure. Who knows what else.

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bp_SFV4 said:

I'd like to see a test going the other way. A typical track day rider on a stock bike, WSBK then MotoGP.

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