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andyb said:
Where’s the relevance of this? Who in here wouldn’t be? but we are not the multi million pound company that’s not keeping up or the riders getting paid to do that🤷🏼‍♂️
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But I thought you were a factory rider with that bike your riding, no? I thought that’s what all those stickers were about.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Haha exactly… I’d bet the average height of a GP rider is around 5’6”-5’9”

Did some back of a napkin trig and looks like going from 7º to 6º bar angle (with the DBK adjustable clip ons) will only get me about 3-4 mm increase in bar height which is negligible. It also looks like Ducati GP riders don’t muck with the clip ons for their training bikes so why should I…

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They sure do muck with the master cylinder and right hand switches.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
They sure do muck with the master cylinder and right hand switches.
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Some do some don’t. Looks like Martin runs a stock master (?) with a different lever.

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There might be some glare or other optical defects going on but that seem like a stock lever, which is need to clear the switch housing and throttle.

I really want a custom lever fitted to a RCS 17 which would clear the OEM right bar setup. I think there's money to be made there.
 
bp_SFV4 said:
There might be some glare or other optical defects going on but that seem like a stock lever, which is need to clear the switch housing and throttle.

I really want a custom lever fitted to a RCS 17 which would clear the OEM right bar setup. I think there's money to be made there.
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Could design one in CAD and 3D print it. There’s now a ton of companies that print for cheap. Probably cost $50-100. The hard part is the CAD but it can’t be that hard bc I figured it out in a few hrs. You could probably just splice the RCS lever to the stock lever in CAD and call it a day. I wonder if Brembo would send the files…
 
bp_SFV4 said:
There might be some glare or other optical defects going on but that seem like a stock lever, which is need to clear the switch housing and throttle.

I really want a custom lever fitted to a RCS 17 which would clear the OEM right bar setup. I think there's money to be made there.
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I think you'd like the RCS because of the fine toothed span adjuster. Ask 1Hander to mill you a lever. That guy loves to fabricate.
 
If you want to get a sense of how good a track bike will be look at BSB Superstock rather than WSBK... Note that there’s not a Ducati in sight due to costs, lack of development or support by Ducati, riding characteristics, etc. Ducati won BSB Superbike because it’s basically a WSBK but with a different ECU. Don’t get me wrong, the F23 is a great platform but is far removed from the production V4R.

But I didn’t buy a Panigale strictly as a track bike. If you’re a non-sponsored racer or trackday rider, you’d be an idiot to ride a Ducati when there are so many better handling, more cost effective bikes out there.

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SuperDomestique said:
Agreed, it looks like the stock lever could possibly be milled to adapt to the RCS folding mechanism. I’d try that first before CAD. OEM brake levers are $25 on eBay
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By folding mechanism, I take it you mean the part which actually folds. Just trying to make sure we're talking about the same thing. That section looks the same between the TWM (DP OEM) levers, Brembo 19x18 and Brembo RCS 17.

TWM

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Brembo 19x18

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Brembo RCS

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The part that is different is the distance from the pivot to the bolt which retains the part which folds.

TWM

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Brembo 19x18

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Brembo RCS

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If this part was made to match the TWM, you could use a RCS/Billet master without having to do switches, throttles etc.
 
SuperDomestique said:
If you want to get a sense of how good a track bike will be look at BSB Superstock rather than WSBK... Note that there’s not a Ducati in sight due to costs, lack of development or support by Ducati, riding characteristics, etc. Ducati won BSB Superbike because it’s basically a WSBK but with a different ECU. Don’t get me wrong, the F23 is a great platform but is far removed from the production V4R.

But I didn’t buy a Panigale strictly as a track bike. If you’re a non-sponsored racer or trackday rider, you’d be an idiot to ride a Ducati when there are so many better handling, more cost effective bikes out there.
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Silly Brits allow 40k BMW M1000RR but still ban V4R
 
SuperDomestique said:
If you want to get a sense of how good a track bike will be look at BSB Superstock rather than WSBK... Note that there’s not a Ducati in sight due to costs, lack of development or support by Ducati, riding characteristics, etc. Ducati won BSB Superbike because it’s basically a WSBK but with a different ECU. Don’t get me wrong, the F23 is a great platform but is far removed from the production V4R.

But I didn’t buy a Panigale strictly as a track bike. If you’re a non-sponsored racer or trackday rider, you’d be an idiot to ride a Ducati when there are so many better handling, more cost effective bikes out there.
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I love it you have got principles..........and if people don't agree with you, you have others...
 

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