V4 Speciale best pricing

lamb00j · Feb 14, 2019

I went and looked at the Speciale last night. I love the color scheme. For the same price I can get the R. So i must ask, what has everyones experience been with pricing for the Speciale? Are the dealers moving off the MSRP of these bikes or are they holding firm?

IF they are holding firm and not budging, i would rather put a deposit on the R and get that. But if people are tending to get pretty good deals, i would pull the trigger on the Speciale. TIA

Desmolvr · Feb 14, 2019

I think you can always get a dealer to move off of MSRP depending on relationship and how often you purchase. That being said you might also go for them installing the exhaust or other items as part of the deal.

If you are mainly riding on the street the Special is probably a better bike. The R will not be as street friendly and if you add an exhaust you are looking at another $5K minimum.

lamb00j · Feb 14, 2019

Desmolvr said:
I think you can always get a dealer to move off of MSRP depending on relationship and how often you purchase. That being said you might also go for them installing the exhaust or other items as part of the deal.

If you are mainly riding on the street the Special is probably a better bike. The R will not be as street friendly and if you add an exhaust you are looking at another $5K minimum.

I see a lot of the Speciale for sale online state side. And just saw one with 8 miles sell for $35995 (that was asking so it may have went less). as for the dealer installing the good bits, yes, they will do that at no charge, savings of $1080.

So i wanted to see what people got on their deals, i have it reserved now and typically hate to take the hit on depreciation. I do not buy many bikes from one dealer, i have no loyalty. It comes down to dollars to me. Some dealers want / need to move bikes and will, some will not.

I concur the R will not be as nice on the street as the Speciale, I am sure i will track either bike with no questions asked, but they will spend time on the street as well. The akra exhaust, i can get new for 3300 (install is on me). So yeah, its still more, but its not a bolts and paint the Speciale is...

Regardless, its nice to have a bike you may not see coming from the other direction much (if ever).

Desmolvr · Feb 14, 2019

Sounds like you have done your home work. I did not pay MSRP for mine but I have known my local dealer for years so that helped.

If you are looking for something like you mentioned not seeing I would wait for the R.

lamb00j · Feb 14, 2019

I can transfer the deposit to the R, and will be the 4th in my area (dealer has an allotment of 8). SO its tempting. but if i can get the Speciale for a good deal, i would rather get the deal. if it was the exact MSRP, i would surely stick with the R and not question it.

I think with the R coming out next month for delivery, the Speciale have taken a hit on being sold.

Desmolvr · Feb 14, 2019

I agree if it was me I would hit them at out the door for the MSRP number. I am not sure how Florida handles everything (that would include tax & title for California).

lamb00j · Feb 14, 2019

Got quoted 38k OTD with Akra installed for a 0 mile 2019 Speciale...

Also got quoted 39k OTD for a V4R...

I think this is a no brainer

motodoc · Feb 14, 2019

Well I will say, you should be able to find a great deal on a used Speciale. My Speciale only had 700 miles when I sold it . I took a $20,000 (purchase price: $51,000 including taxes, prep, Akro install, and protection gear for the bike) loss on the sale, and was happy to get rid of it... So try looking for a used Speciale...

realnuts · Feb 15, 2019

motodoc said:
Well I will say, you should be able to find a great deal on a used Speciale. My Speciale only had 700 miles when I sold it . I took a $20,000 (purchase price: $51,000 including taxes, prep, Akro install, and protection gear for the bike) loss on the sale, and was happy to get rid of it... So try looking for a used Speciale...

But why?
Why?
Such a beautiful bike
Such a big loss
I really don't get it
I never sell a bike

Still have my first ZXR400
I will never understand this...
Why?

panis · Feb 15, 2019

realnuts said:
But why?
Why?
Such a beautiful bike
Such a big loss
I really don't get it
I never sell a bike
Still have my first ZXR400
I will never understand this...
Why?

Maybe because the bike isn't as good as you (or others) think it is. I got rid of my V4S. It has a slew of issues, especially if you actually ride it (I had it for about 3 months and in that time I was at the dealer every week for something). There's a reason there's a thread about the clutches. The clutch is a joke. Had everything but the hose replaced on mine [which they are now replacing as well in hopes of a fix] (slave cylinder, master cylinder) and it still got air in to the point it would not be able to engage at a stop light without inching me forward after only 200-250 miles.

If you're a typical Ducati rider and resell your bikes with 1500-2000 miles on it after 3-5 years, then you probably wont run into as many issues as I did. I had lot of weird .... start happening after 4500 miles (bike would not run well, dealers could not pinpoint it, it was actually dangerous to ride at times because of the malfunctions).

Desmolvr · Feb 15, 2019

Wow I have had mine for 8 months 2500 miles and 6 track days. I have not had any issues and yes there have been some recalls. I have had other brands that have also had recalls so it is not just Ducati. In the end you make your own decisions.

SOULRIDER · Feb 15, 2019

I got mine at a bit of discount. The discount was enough to cover shipping, and the $1440 to have Akra installed.

The R was hard to pass on, but remember that the R doesn't come with the full Akra. That weighed a lot into my decision.

motodoc · Feb 15, 2019

The Speciale was easily the worst bike I have ever owned. Ultimately I concur with Panis. Simply put: "It was dangerous to ride". If you are someone that has never had a problem (there is always someone that chimes in to say that...), then either you are not being honest, or you had the one bike that the robot put together. Bottom line, Ducati QC has a long history of unreliability, and the history continues. All I can say, is hurry up electric bikes (it already destroyed all comers at Pikes peak). The performance tech will be unlimited, and it will shred any ICE bike.

jdailey · Feb 15, 2019

motodoc said:
The Speciale was easily the worst bike I have ever owned. Ultimately I concur with Panis. Simply put: "It was dangerous to ride". If you are someone that has never had a problem (there is always someone that chimes in to say that...), then either you are not being honest, or you had the one bike that the robot put together. Bottom line, Ducati QC has a long history of unreliability, and the history continues. All I can say, is hurry up electric bikes (it already destroyed all comers at Pikes peak). The performance tech will be unlimited, and it will shred any ICE bike.

I had to create an account just to reply to this. I've had a V4 speciale for a good 4 months, multiple track days and 6k miles on it. Not a single problem. 3rd Ducati and it's the funnest bike in my garage. So much fun to commute on that I've sold my car. Others with V4's that I've met have the same opinion.

DucSyd · Feb 15, 2019

Wow, worst bike ever owned?!

I have had so many bikes, and currently have 5 other Ducati’s, I can say that my V4 Speciale is the best bike ever! Just awesome.

It is my go to bike now for sure.

I’ve had mine for about 9 months and apart from the scheduled recalls it is faultless and a keeper.

Just needed to get my perceptive in.

motodoc · Feb 15, 2019

To put it in perspective, More than likely, I may be the one person to have received the only Speciale with QC problems. I hope you continue to enjoy your Speciale.

SJS · Feb 16, 2019

I got like $1600 off on a total or $50K invested with pipes, some farkles, and sales taxes... Not much. Here in SF, people have money and they don't haggle hard.

panis · Feb 17, 2019

motodoc said:
To put it in perspective, More than likely, I may be the one person to have received the only Speciale with QC problems. I hope you continue to enjoy your Speciale.

Doubtful, it's really no different than a V4 base or V4S, and basically 50% of those have issues (if not 100% having certain issues).

They could be sitting and not being ridden as well, which is typical for most Ducati owners.

panis · Feb 17, 2019

jdailey said:
I had to create an account just to reply to this. I've had a V4 speciale for a good 4 months, multiple track days and 6k miles on it. Not a single problem. 3rd Ducati and it's the funnest bike in my garage. So much fun to commute on that I've sold my car. Others with V4's that I've met have the same opinion.

You're full of it; you haven't had any recalls or TSBs done? Those count as problems.

SuperDuc29 · Feb 17, 2019

SJS said:
I got like $1600 off on a total or $50K invested with pipes, some farkles, and sales taxes... Not much. Here in SF, people have money and they don't haggle hard.

Really? With the expense of living there, they have money left over?

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