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Well that is interesting, certainly some creative Italian mathematics going on.
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Well that is interesting, certainly some creative Italian mathematics going on.
Youtube testers do not measure weight usually.
And any other businesses like motorcycle magazines etc will NEVER say anything bad about bikes they preview --- otherwise no bike manufacturer wants to give bikes to them.
.... ME !!! that is a porker.
From owners manual:
Overall weight (in running order with 90% of fuel - 93/93/EC):198 kg (436.5 lb).
Overall weight (without fluids and battery): 175 kg (385.8 lb).
So lets see:
1) 175 kg +
2) Oil 3.8 L = 3.8 * 0.85 /oil kg per litre/ = 3.2 kg
3) Oil filter? not more than 500g
4) Battery +2.3kg
5) Coolant 2 litres = 2kg
6) Brake oil not more than 1L = 0.85kg
7) Fuel 90% of 16L = 16 * 0.9 * 0.75 /petrol mass per litre/ = 10.8 kg
So 175+3.2+0.5+0.85+2.3+2+10.8 = 194.65kg
Plus:
Fuses, relays, bulbs = so total around 197kg.
So my +11kg overweight is from dry weight.
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Some do measure weight like MCN eventually in their group tests, but yeah not usually in the first ride/track reviews. So the truth will come out eventually. Thanks for sharing your findings.
I'm still surprised. I never would've guessed seeing the V4 up close that it actually weighed more than my gen 5 ZX, which is no svelte bike by any means. If someone had told me that right then and there I would've thought they were joking.
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Recent gen bikes gain a lot of weight due to emissions regulations. Swap the exhaust and you rip 5-10 kilos. Eg: my FM is stainless steel but still weighs I think 7 kilos less than OEM.
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Yeah, they're both Euro 4 compliant so a lot of weight in their cans. Thing is, the V4 looks so much physically smaller that I find it hard to believe it's the heavier of the two. That and the old push test to get a general feel of its heft. Guess it carries its weight well, lol.
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Thats crazy!!! 465lbs!!!! Jesus that's almost 70lbs more than my 1299 street bike set up and the V4S is over 80lbs heavier than my track day set up!!! Power is nice but I will take a light bike any day that has a bit less power.
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You won't notice it on the track. Barber's fast left right transitions were a non-event.
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Be nice to see exactly how much weight the Akra exhaust actually saves.
Have the bike weighed with this exhaust, I think they list it as 8kg less??
Have the bike weighed with this exhaust, I think they list it as 8kg less??
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It's very simple to drop the sprung weight of any bike. It's a five points plan:
No Fats
No Carbs
No Sweets
No Alchool
No Seconds
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Very true. However, a 10 kg savings would be a reach for most but could perhaps be achieved with Titanium headers and a carbon silencer.
For example, I replaced the stock silencer on a Monster 1200R with a Carbon slip-on.
The stock weighs exactly 16.8 lbs (7.6 kg) and the SC-Project Carbon weighs less than 4.4 lbs (2 kg) for a net weight savings of 12.4 lbs (5.6 kg).
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Under braking I will notice 70+ lbs.
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1299s - 420 wet weight
v4s - 465 wet weight
45 pounds difference.
Will it matter?
That depends on your level of riding. Are you a track junkie that removes the last ounce of unneccessary weight from your bike? Do you work out in the off season to get as lean as possible for the track?
Or...are you a track DAY guy that tapes up his lights and or spend 99% of his bike time on the street?
If the street is your answer, you'll only need to worry about the extra weight when you're at the Starbucks having a d1@k measuring contest...no offense, I like Starbucks coffee.
My 1299s track bike - 390 wet weight
v4s - 465 wet weight
45 pounds difference.
Will it matter?
That depends on your level of riding. Are you a track junkie that removes the last ounce of unneccessary weight from your bike? Do you work out in the off season to get as lean as possible for the track?
Or...are you a track DAY guy that tapes up his lights and or spend 99% of his bike time on the street?
If the street is your answer, you'll only need to worry about the extra weight when you're at the Starbucks having a d1@k measuring contest...no offense, I like Starbucks coffee.
My 1299s track bike - 390 wet weight
10% isn't going to make up for the difference. I'd think the truth will come out in the mag "shootout" tests, but I hope the factory didn't get so creative with its published specs. 465# wet, really?
10% error in the difference (ie. 35#), or 10% of the total weight? I doubt a scale would be off so much. That's way off. I really want to believe the factory specs, but 35# difference is hard to overlook.
It’s just conjecture, but yeah it would be reasonable to expect a scale that was built 15 years ago and never calibrated to be off by 10% of the total weight
It’s also entirely possible that the scale used was perfectly accurate. The point that I am trying to make is that you can not trust the scale unless you verify it’s accuracy. A 10% error wouldn’t even be what I would consider to be a bad error.
It’s also entirely possible that the scale used was perfectly accurate. The point that I am trying to make is that you can not trust the scale unless you verify it’s accuracy. A 10% error wouldn’t even be what I would consider to be a bad error.
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