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Having only a single compression ring is what might result in shorter rebuild intervals - once that lone ring starts to not seal well, excessive blow-by pressurizes the crankcase, potentially pushing oil into the air box (if I understand correctly - I’m not a pro or subject matter expert). The process is generally worse with higher compression ratios.
 
Yep I’ve been reading about the R models and have seen warnings regarding the risks involved. I’m looking to get a Panigale— just not sure which one— I know I want an S because I want the forged wheels-and of course the Ohlins— what’s your favorite vintage Panigale?


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I’m new to Panigales - bought a 19 base last February, and a 15 R in December. Haven’t had the R on track yet, so I don’t know for sure, but there is something intriguing about that thumping twin. Lol

Most of the really knowledgeable folks I’ve talked to say the S and R variants are overhyped, and you’re better off buying a base and modifying with the money you saved.
 
my 2c is that correctly sprung/adjusted Ohlins definitely makes a difference... even for the casual rider. Easier when it comes from the factory and you just have to adjust sag ... If you're a lightweight or a heavyweight who needs to respring maybe a base makes sense since you're going to be doing more than just setting sag
 
Thanks guys— both my 1098s were base models, and I retrofitted them both with Ohlins but they each had the cast wheels. I REALLY want forged wheels for my next Duc and it seems more cost-effective to just get the S model— used of course, as the price gap between base and S seems to be smaller used rather than when new.

Yes, the thumping twins are awesome and visceral, but I did test-ride a 2020 V4 base recently at Ducati Austin and loved the refinement and power, so, now I’m REALLY confused!

I love the 959 Corse for its looks/style but fear it’s probably a bit underpowered for me—I’m 235 lbs in gear. My other bike is a 2015 R1, so I’m used to that realm of horsepower.

There’s a white base 1199 near me, priced right, fairly tempting but the 1299 is a bit more refined and powerful, right? I remember testing an 1199 when they first came out and being very put off by the excessive heat. My 1098s had full-race exhausts and ran super cool- I guess all the Panigale twins run hot? The V4 I rode recently was not bad in that department.


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I’m here in Harker Heights. I’ve done several days at COTA on the v4. As long as you’re moving, the heat isn’t an issue. In traffic in summer, it’s a sweltering hot b*tch that roasts your balls. I found riding on the street unpleasant when the temp is over 90 or so. On the track - no issue.

Just as a reference point, the v4 rides far hotter than my gsxr 1000 turbo making 300 at the wheel did.
 
craig bush said:
I’m here in Harker Heights. I’ve done several days at COTA on the v4. As long as you’re moving, the heat isn’t an issue. In traffic in summer, it’s a sweltering hot b*tch that roasts your balls. I found riding on the street unpleasant when the temp is over 90 or so. On the track - no issue.

Just as a reference point, the v4 rides far hotter than my gsxr 1000 turbo making 300 at the wheel did.
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Thanks Craig, good to see you’re not too far for me here in Austin. Have you ever ridden any of the Panigale V twins? Would you consider the heat output to be similar across all of them, V4 included? By the way, 300 hp at the rear wheel is insane, that must be a hoot to ride! :)


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300 whp is a hoot indeed! Lol

My 2015 panigale R is track only (not street legal), and I’ve not had it in track yet - only ridden around my neighborhood. Not definitive obviously, but heat output feels similar to the v4.
 
greggiacona said:
Thanks guys— both my 1098s were base models, and I retrofitted them both with Ohlins but they each had the cast wheels. I REALLY want forged wheels for my next Duc and it seems more cost-effective to just get the S model— used of course, as the price gap between base and S seems to be smaller used rather than when new.

Yes, the thumping twins are awesome and visceral, but I did test-ride a 2020 V4 base recently at Ducati Austin and loved the refinement and power, so, now I’m REALLY confused!

I love the 959 Corse for its looks/style but fear it’s probably a bit underpowered for me—I’m 235 lbs in gear. My other bike is a 2015 R1, so I’m used to that realm of horsepower.

There’s a white base 1199 near me, priced right, fairly tempting but the 1299 is a bit more refined and powerful, right? I remember testing an 1199 when they first came out and being very put off by the excessive heat. My 1098s had full-race exhausts and ran super cool- I guess all the Panigale twins run hot? The V4 I rode recently was not bad in that department.


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My 2 cents, Buying second hand, I’d get the S as the price difference diminishes, buying new there’s a 25% premium for the S and for that you get the wheels and ohlins, electronic suspension and an S sticker. Second hand that premium reduces in real terms making the goodies very cheap. That said if you were to get a base there is a lot of enjoyment in choosing and hunting down deals on wheels and suspension that although will cost more, can be a far higher quality than the S components. Lots of S owners upgrade to carbon wheels etc, which kind of defeats the purpose.

Heat has been discussed endlessly, the short version is “get used to it” and I’d get the 1299 over the 1199 everything else being equal.
 
Exactly...

My only gripe with the 1299 is the electric steering stabilizer

I had a near fatal (very bad) experience and will never ride fast on anything that has one of those again
 

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