WET mode MPG question...

MacaveliMC · Oct 28, 2013

Fragile said:
Torque is the question. At 120hp top speed would be affected, in my opinion, but I wonder what the torque will be. BTW 41 MPG on wet mode, mixed riding! So it barely puts the Panigale in the economy range.

Unless you're a huge person making a lot of wind resistance, top speed won't be affected because gearing hasn't changed. My 126hp Daytona has zero problems reaching 160mph and I'm sure it would go far past if it had the gearing.

Fragile · Oct 28, 2013

So with current gearing, you are saying that 190mph is achievable in comparable conditions as when set to 190+hp setting? Would it take the same amount of time, if not how much more time and distance?

MacaveliMC · Oct 28, 2013

Fragile said:
So with current gearing, you are saying that 190mph is achievable?

I'm saying whatever speed is achievable with full power is definitely achievable in 120hp mode. It's not nearly enough of a power drop to cause the bike to struggle against the wind, and if power is not an issue it is strictly gearing that determines top speed.

Edit: Obviously it would take a bit longer, but I have no doubt it would max out the gearing eventually. I have no idea exactly how long it would take or how much more distance.

RandallNYC · Oct 28, 2013

MacaveliMC said:
I'm saying whatever speed is achievable with full power is definitely achievable in 120hp mode. It's not nearly enough of a power drop to cause the bike to struggle against the wind

I disagree. Wind resistance limits top speed. Have you ever head the saying "you need 200 hp to reach 200 MPH"? Why is it that 600's top out at around 160, and 1000's top out around 180? Even though they are near the same size, the extra HP makes all the difference.

MacaveliMC · Oct 28, 2013

RandallNYC said:
I disagree. Wind resistance limits top speed. Have you ever head the saying "you need 200 hp to reach 200 MPH"? Why is it that 600's top out at around 160, and 1000's top out around 180? Even though they are near the same size, the extra HP makes all the difference.

If anything yes, it is wind resistance that limits top speed. I'm simply saying that based on my experience with my 600 and the fact that it easily breaks the 160mph barrier and the only thing holding it back is gearing (i.e. acceleration never seems to slow down up to that point) I would tend to believe that you could top out the gearing on the Pani in 120hp mode, whatever that speed actually is. I've personally never tried it. Maybe someone on here should get out on a track with a long straight and give 'er a try.

And no, I've never heard those sayings, seems to me from an engineering standpoint it wouldn't make much sense since wind resistance is based on the shape of the bike/vehicle and that can vary quite a bit. Anyways, it's just a saying. Hopefully someone can go give this a try and let us know.

rocdoc · Oct 28, 2013

randomized double-blind study

blinkme2028 said:
Quick question, would I yield better mpg when taking long trips on the Pani utilizing WET mode? Would it be so minor that I wouldn't really matter?

Thanks in advance!

So I did a randomized, double-blind study, with power of 80 and p value < 0.05, and found this...

Okay, okay, maybe not that scientific, but I was curious about MPG in wet mode, so I did a few trials myself and found...

~2 MPG difference

Brad · Oct 29, 2013

Stw said:
It has a Wet mode????

Yes strangely enough, it does.

You will find reference to it in your owners manual.
It's great for riding in the wet with these tyres, which in my opinion are quite greasy in the wet.

The best part about the wet mode is that throttle actuation is dampened, and that helps to smooth things out when riding around town.

To the OP.
I'm not certain about fuel economy yet, but I'm trying to determine if economy is better. At the moment It's inconclusive even though I thought it should be better myself.
Actually sometimes I get the impression that economy is worse in wet mode

Brad · Oct 29, 2013

Xbox said:
.... and stall as you pull away

Really

Brad · Oct 29, 2013

MacaveliMC said:
It also apparently has a "Heat Mode", which is almost the opposite of wet mode.

Is that for the grips like on the BMW's?

MacaveliMC · Oct 29, 2013

Brad said:
Is that for the grips like on the BMW's?

Nope, strictly for ya buns! They rely on the constant clutch and throttle modulation needed to run the bike smoothly to keep your hands warm.

Stw · Oct 29, 2013

Brad said:
Yes strangely enough, it does.

You will find reference to it in your owners manual.
It's great for riding in the wet with these tyres, which in my opinion are quite greasy in the wet.

The best part about the wet mode is that throttle actuation is dampened, and that helps to smooth things out when riding around town.
:

But I have Q3's....so no such worries...

turnone · Oct 29, 2013

If you go same speed you will burn the same fuel. No magic there. It's unlikely to burn more efficiently.

Trauma · Oct 29, 2013

I only use when racing S1000RRs, don't want to totally embarrass them

Fragile · Oct 30, 2013

41 mpgs in wet mode, mixed riding. I am getting this.

Lexpert4441 · Oct 30, 2013

mb5 mode

I like wet mode, less jerky if I use it to get to work and it runs pretty good still at the top end.

It's like having three bikes in one.

now they just need an MB5 mode for the girls.... just kidd'n

there are some girls out there who can spank my butt.....

Tancakar · May 26, 2015

I never could understand why people still can't except the modes. The bike will be still powerful! People talking about they only ride in race mode is silly.
All the technologies is there for you to use them , when it's rains and it's very cold or when you have black ice why not use the wet mode? What do you want 200 hp on the back wheel on black ice or wet and muddy roads?
For fun stuff you can use the race mode and for sport riding or two up you can use the sport mode. I don't understand why people think they don't need them. Still goes the same with the Abs , there still some people think they can brake bettering safer then abs!

Technology is good for you ! Why so technology-fobic , it 2015! Cornering abs ,traction control, wheele control, modes all there to help you !

TurboLag · May 26, 2015

I commute 120 miles every day to work (highway), and I actually get better mileage in high power mode/race mode than low power/rain mode..

Mr C · May 27, 2015

I used wet mode the other week for the first time. It was dry but the roads were very tight with not great visibility so as we were only nursing them along avoiding potholes, muck on the road from farmers etc etc I though what's the point of any angry 195hi.
Wet made much more sense.

Slowdive2 · Aug 3, 2015

I tried wet mode yesterday for the first time since the day I got the bike. I was in fairly heavy but moving traffic @ 22 mph to 28 mph on urban-ish streets. I found it much less fatiguing than the sport or race modes. Very nice for when you have to go slow.

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