Which Ducati 1299 do you plan on purchasing?

Rogue said:

Not even close....

That being said if this is going to be your dedicated race bike you made the right decision with the base model.

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what's the difference other than suspension and wheels . I want to make sure I made the right decision . I will be swapping out suspension and wheels on the base .

Prince Albert said:

Any Reason why you didn't want to get the 2015 1199R?

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I already have my 1199R and I want to keep it . I really am buying the other bike for the updated electronics .

wilkson said:

what's the difference other than suspension and wheels . I want to make sure I made the right decision . I will be swapping out suspension and wheels on the base .

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The S model has auxiliary buttons on the handlebar that allows changes to DTC, DWC and EBC. It also has LED lights, and as mentioned the EC semi-active Ohlins front and rear. Not really worth mentioning but it also comes with the carbon fender for those that care.

Like I said, you made the right choice with the base as a race bike. I would've done the same because most of these options either don't matter or get swapped out.

I bought an S for the street. I can't imagine this thing on the track. I'm not even close to riding my track 600 to full potential.

wilkson said:

I already have my 1199R and I want to keep it . I really am buying the other bike for the updated electronics .

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Having never ridden an R, I'm talking out of my ... here, but I couldn't justify buying the 1299 base as an upgrade from the 1199R. Just my opinion.

Rogue said:

Having never ridden an R, I'm talking out of my ... here, but I couldn't justify buying the 1299 base as an upgrade from the 1199R. Just my opinion.

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I didn't say it was really a upgrade just a new race bike .

I picked a 1299 s for pretty dedicated street riding. I had an 1199 base, which I loved, but it was totalled by a Ford F-250 in 2013.

The only thing I'm worried about, really, is the Ohlins EC -- will they be as good as the base Marzocchis, which I found to be amazing? I also wonder if the increased rake will cause the bike to be less stable...

Guess I'll find out for $27.5!

I ordered the 1299S and it will be my next race bike.

I went with the S because I wanted the lighter wheels. In Superstock trim, the Panigale is legal for 5 race classes. But if you change the wheels, that renders it illegal for SSTK and you have to race it in SBK classes...which would make it only legal in 3 classes. And I like to do a lot of races.

So with the S I can get the lighter wheels, but remain SS legal.

Chaotic said:

I ordered the 1299S and it will be my next race bike.

I went with the S because I wanted the lighter wheels. In Superstock trim, the Panigale is legal for 5 race classes. But if you change the wheels, that renders it illegal for SSTK and you have to race it in SBK classes...which would make it only legal in 3 classes. And I like to do a lot of races.

So with the S I can get the lighter wheels, but remain SS legal.

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Chris, you'll end up riding one of the R1's on track with Yamaha Champion's Academy and you'll end up buying that too. It's like a huge, pyramid of bottled water in a convenience store, you just can't resist it!

(This is Stantheman from the wera forum, just had to poke you with a stick here, so to speak)

DukeMedDucati said:

Chris, you'll end up riding one of the R1's on track with Yamaha Champion's Academy and you'll end up buying that too. It's like a huge, pyramid of bottled water in a convenience store, you just can't resist it!

(This is Stantheman from the wera forum, just had to poke you with a stick here, so to speak)

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Haha you are probably right.

Me and Kyle have been good friends for several years; I am sure he will turn me on to the R1. And honestly, the only reason im going with the Duc is because it is legal for more classes. I have always loved Yamaha's (I still have my '06 R1).

Chaotic said:

Haha you are probably right.

Me and Kyle have been good friends for several years; I am sure he will turn me on to the R1. And honestly, the only reason im going with the Duc is because it is legal for more classes. I have always loved Yamaha's (I still have my '06 R1).

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That is surprising considering the additional displacement --I can only imagine what the four cylinder competition could be doing with an additional 100 cc's. I would have imagined this detail would have further limited the classes for which the 1299 is eligible, not vice versa. Honestly, I would have gone with the R for a dedicated multi-class race bike application, as the lighter internals, titanium conrods, adjustable swing arm, and mechanical suspension would likely be advantageous in that capacity.

Edit to add a couple links that may be useful to read through:
http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/13090-s-r.html
http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/13086-tracking-1199-need-know.html

Moving up to an R isn't necessary by any means, but considering the amount of work you'll be putting this bike through, it could potentially save you a bit of money/hassle down the line while simultaneously offering a more versatile and competitive package.

showerfan said:

The only thing I'm worried about, really, is the Ohlins EC -- will they be as good as the base Marzocchis, which I found to be amazing?

Guess I'll find out for $27.5!

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That's what I was worried about...guess I'll find out for at least $6k less On the street I doubt anyone except an expert could tell much of a difference

Duck41 said:

That is surprising considering the additional displacement --I can only imagine what the four cylinder competition could be doing with an additional 100 cc's. I would have imagined this detail would have further limited the classes for which the 1299 is eligible, not vice versa. Honestly, I would have gone with the R for a dedicated multi-class race bike application, as the lighter internals, titanium conrods, adjustable swing arm, and mechanical suspension would likely be advantageous in that capacity.

Edit to add a couple links that may be useful to read through:
http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/13090-s-r.html
http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/13086-tracking-1199-need-know.html

Moving up to an R isn't necessary by any means, but considering the amount of work you'll be putting this bike through, it could potentially save you a bit of money/hassle down the line while simultaneously offering a more versatile and competitive package.

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US orgs are based on OEM displacement. So the 1299 is legal for all the same classes the 1199 is.

I will be able to race against all other Liter bikes (which will give me 3 classes). And my org also has a "Heavyweight Twins" category, which will give me 2 more classes.

I kicked around which bike I wanted for several weeks. At the end of the day, the motor differences are miniscule. In other words, it looks/sounds good on paper, but I honestly don't think I would jump on the R and immediately go 2 seconds faster.

Besides, we are kind of "splitting hairs" when measuring the performance between the 2 bikes. I mean, there isn't a single rider in the world who could honestly say a 1299S is "holding them back". If somebody can't podium with a package that has 200hp, 100lb/ft of torque, TC, WC, LC, Cornering ABS Clutchless Up/Down shifts and weighs under 400lbs in race trim...then they need to work on their racecraft and overall skillset.

In other words, if somebody finishes in 4th place and says "I could have podium'ed if I would have been on an R"...I will have to call ......... Haha

I wanted the updates that came with the 1299 and in all honesty, I want to try the electronic suspension. I haven't heard a lot of good things about it as it pertains to track riding in the past, but RRW had a lot of good things to say about the EL suspension on the 1299S. He said the suspension would stiffen under hard braking, then soften as the brakes were trailed off, allowing him to make the apex no matter how hard he charged the corner. I am fascinated by that and want to try it.

If I don't like it, then I will remove the EC stuff (or just run it in "Fixed" mode).

More than twice as many S models sold (compared to Base or R) - I wonder if that stat is true for global sales as a whole?

Good year for Ducati financially selling bikes that are $10k more than Jap counterparts (although far less of them), with a nice mark-up I'm sure

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Just upgraded from a 2012 1199S to a 2015 1299S, love it!

Some weeks ago, i ordered my base '17 1299 Panigale, then switched on the S, then on the base, and on the S again.

I still have a lot of difficulties knowing if the S is really worth it, +5000€ (France) for Leds wheels and Ohlins... Sounds like money that will get lost as soon as the bike will be in my hands, but as it's my first brand new bike, don't wanna go for something i regret.

Still have two weeks to decide before i take my decision though

Hi All,

I ordered a 2016 Panigale R and now I'm looking for a solution for the headlights: LED is the way to go and on a security's perspective, I don't understand why Ducati would drop LED technology to save 1/2 a kilogramm. Just dangerous and greedy.
Dangerous because they know over 90% of these bikes will stay on the streets and on the track, you just don't need them and greedy because the price didn't drop because of the missing LED headlights and electronic suspension. It does still cost 38,995.00 euros here in Vienna. At least on december 10th it did.

forelli said:

Hi All,

I ordered a 2016 Panigale R and now I'm looking for a solution for the headlights: LED is the way to go and on a security's perspective, I don't understand why Ducati would drop LED technology to save 1/2 a kilogramm. Just dangerous and greedy.
Dangerous because they know over 90% of these bikes will stay on the streets and on the track, you just don't need them and greedy because the price didn't drop because of the missing LED headlights and electronic suspension. It does still cost 38,995.00 euros here in Vienna. At least on december 10th it did.

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Sounds like you should have ordered a 1299S instead. Might be a better choice for you.

Some quick update, i finally chose to go for the 1299 Panigale S, you don't buy a brand new motorcycle everyday, and i had the possibility to go for the S (even the R) but the S definitely was the one for me there.

Having had both, the R is an amazing machine, I love that bike, wouldn't get rid of it.... but... if I only had one bike I'd probably still have the 1299S, it's just that good. Although I say this because I haven't been able to ride my R on 2 weeks due to the weather