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Why is everyone constantly trying to fix the bike below 5000rpm? I don't know that mine has ever even been below 5k RPM. If you bought this bike to totter around on the street with you're going to have a bad time.


Good fkn point!!!! I don't get it either... It has no power in 3500 range [emoji23][emoji23] no sh... It's built for the 7k+ range... Race mode doesn't even entertain anything below 6krpm
 
A first hand 1299 crash report! Sounds like she did pretty good, glad to hear you are OK.

I've got the T-rex sliders on my bike as well. Sounds like if you had race fairings you would have escaped with virtually no damage? What happened to the handlebar?

Yeah those T Rex sliders are the bomb! They aren't exactly what I would call "pretty" however If I had installed the "pretty" typical carbon fiber " factory Ducati" unit, it would only have been prettier right up till the crash then I would have most assuredly be replacing the tank also. and maybe other stuff as well like the side engine casing... As it turned out the casing and tank was spotless, not a scratch The bike actually slid on it's right side about 10 feet till it hit the grass.

Amazing sliders.. If you actually take your bike on the track or intend to the T Rex is the way to go..BTW I also used the Woodcraft slider pucks on the front forks which also showed a lot of grinding down.. Also nice units to have...
Virtually every piece of safety equipment from the custom Pilot leathers to my Shoei RF1100 helmet to the Knox Handroid gloves and Sidi Vortex boots sustained heavy abuse. Most assuredly without the Shoei helmet i wold be dead! it had a silver dollar sized chunk about 1/16th gouged out of it at what would have been the back of my skull. and it was scratched from the front shield all the way around. The leathers didn't fair much better and sustained a Lot of contact and sliding on the tarmac..As well as protecting my elbows and shoulders from a hard impact. Botht eh elbow and shoulder titanium sliders were toast.. The Knox gloves have a plastic scaphoid slider on the bottom of the palms and it was ground about half way through on the left glove and about 3/4's of the way on the right glove!
I know without the high quality Sidi boots my right ankle would not have been simply fractured with a hairline it would have been badly broken..

I am 6'5'' and had a LOT of body.,arms and legs to flop around on the pavement during my high side LOL.
BTW just the actual handlebar broke in half (no damage to the throttle housing or the Brembo master cylinder) I got lucky..


Take it from an old Track Rat. Get the very best equipment you can afford.. sooner or later your body will thank you for it..


Speedy
 
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Few things:

1.) So glad to hear you are alright. Bikes are cheap, your health is what is important.

2.) that Gyrocam is ....... awesome. I want one.

3.) I hate to be the back-seat racer here, but at 4:17 you can hear exactly what caused the highside. You quickly picked up the throttle with a ton of lean angle left.


Actually I was still just in the maintenance part of the throttle.
(not accelerating but just holding it steady) I was not even ready to lift the bike up yet.. It actually increased the revs when the back wheel suddenly started spinning up due to either coolant from the others guys bike possibly or maybe I just ran into the marbles. It got slippery real quick No warning like on a usual power slide etc or powering out of a turn squaring it off a little....The back spun up VERY quickly and that is what you hear all of a sudden spike in rpm .. Not a gradual increase in throttle..(BTW I had the TC set real low) I have ridden in the expert level for over 5 years and I know when the back is starting to step around usually. If it is controlled throttle you can tell the difference.. I grew up on motocross and flat track so I know a little about throttle control exiting corners..Remember i'm an old fart (61) and came out of the mid 1970's 2 strokes LOL
BTW the tires were brand new and hot and sticking well up until that point SuperCorsa SC's ( D.O.T's) Medium compound.. just off the warmers two laps before I went down.. One thing is for sure I was really leaning it LOL. It probably was a major factor, however up until then everything was pretty stable and smooth.. It was not the first time I had been out that far on that turn and passed others.. if I realized that I was coming in way too hot I would just stand it up and run wide!

Oh well it might have been just a stupid mistake on my part and that is it.. I'm certainly not too proud to admit it.

Even the Pro's screw up sometimes.and i will never be that good... It is real easy to have just a momentary lapse of concentration or just to make a simple misjudgment when you are traveling fast on two wheels and it can go bad quickly.

It is a dangerous thing we do.. even if you have been riding a long time in any level. I will not be able to walk without crutches for 8 weeks and will need all new gear and to fixup my bike also as well as fix up me (and of course my wife is telling me to stop track riding LOL) but all i can think of is how to get back out there. I guess I will never learn my friend LOL

Speedy
 
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Best crash write up ever! To Nola's comment, maybe he got off as soon as he realized, but had already mader 4 laps. I can't believe any serious rider would continue riding, even if alone for fear of damage to his bike.


correction he told me he made about four TURNS and then the track marshals pulled him off the track ( they were cleaning it up when I was being hauled back to the paddock(I'm not saying that was the cause but a possibility.
or might have been a contributing factor..

Speedy
 
A lot of people may be finding fault in things you did in T10 but I'd say the root of this incident was the pass. Instead of passing immediately out of the apex of T9 you hesitated a couple beats.

That meant you were off the line/tight and fast going into T10 which forced you wide. Even if you'd held it together through T10 I'd guess you would have blown T11. Maybe to the point of exploring the grassy area outside T11 that has a reputation for bending peoples' wheels.

Funny everyone mentions about how much faster I could have gone etc. I was not pushing the bike at all .hell I just got it running MUCH stronger and it is a brand new bike with virtually very little butt time in the seat at the track..

And yeah, I hesitated some, but watch the video again I ran off and left him once I committed. * To his defense he is also a great rider but he was also just taking it easy and not pushing it. he was getting his suspension dialed in.. He was on a new R1 and it is fast. I had just finally got the Duc running well for the first time since I purchased in April.
Ducati factory rep could Not/Would not fix it. The dealer did the he best they could but they are severly limited by what they are allowed to do by the factory ( It ran run crappy and very hot with terrible throttle response below 5k rpm and low power/ very lean even with the so called "Ducati 1299 up map" that came with the exhaust.. etc since new and I fanally got it running like it should have in the first place.. All due to the RapidBike module (and it tuned itself!) Man it runs better! Much more power more torque all due to the Rapidbike. In retrospect the highside it might have been caused by the fact I just wasn't used to it running so much faster LOL. However i did hit something very slippery..
Anyway I was way ahead of him I had plenty of time to brake hard and turn in but for some reason I let it out too far. Probably just a brain fart..it happens to the best of us..lol however I have been pushed/ passed others out there before( but just not at the lean angle) Live and learn Hopefully....

Speedy.
 
How does one go about paying a medical bill that big? is it covered by insurance?
can you pay in instalments?
As a british citizen obviously i get NHS so al i have to pay for is medication should i need it. i cant even imagine ending up with a bill for half a million dollars.

I have medical insurance and accident coverage as a back up also. I'm in the insurance business.
 
Why is everyone constantly trying to fix the bike below 5000rpm? I don't know that mine has ever even been below 5k RPM. If you bought this bike to totter around on the street with you're going to have a bad time.

Well to answer your question. I myself like many other people like to also ride this bike on the street. At normal speeds. (Evidently they aren't all bad ... street racers like you LOL)
Until I installed the RapidBike module mine would require it to be in 2nd gear at about 4800 rpm just to stay between 45 to50 mph without it bucking and surging and wanting to stall. No bike should run that crappy unless it is strictly designed for a racetrack.

After getting it dialed in
By the RB. It now will run at 45mph in 4th gear if need be and be smooth. Personally the smoother the throttle response on the lower end is the easier it is to ride for me on the street and the track. Of course that is coming from someone that likes to ride it under 5000 rpm. Sometimes. LOL. :D
 
I myself like many other people like to also ride this bike on the street. At normal speeds. (Evidently they aren't all bad ... street racers like you LOL)

I don't ride this bike on the street at all. I think riding a 1299 on the street is about as absurd as riding a huge lifted truck down the interstate. I've got a street bike for the street, and a dirty bike for the dirt. I don't try to take my GS to the track and complain about the lack of lean angle.

I understand that due to finances, lack of garage space, or lack of wife approval, not everyone can have a different bike for every job. But the 1299 is simply not an "all around" bike, and there are tradeoffs when trying to ride a bike like this on the street.

That being said, to each his own and my comment was not necessarily directed at you (although you've complained about the low RPM throttling in several threads now). It's a common complaint from quite a few folks, and it just makes me roll my eyes every time I read it.
 
I don't ride this bike on the street at all. I think riding a 1299 on the street is about as absurd as riding a huge lifted truck down the interstate. I've got a street bike for the street, and a dirty bike for the dirt. I don't try to take my GS to the track and complain about the lack of lean angle.

I understand that due to finances, lack of garage space, or lack of wife approval, not everyone can have a different bike for every job. But the 1299 is simply not an "all around" bike, and there are tradeoffs when trying to ride a bike like this on the street.

That being said, to each his own and my comment was not necessarily directed at you (although you've complained about the low RPM throttling in several threads now). It's a common complaint from quite a few folks, and it just makes me roll my eyes every time I read it.

Like is just said ...I finally got mine running the way it SHOULD HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE ! Maybe you have a lot of money etc. and don't mind the way yours runs on the low end because you don't ride it on the street but I think I can speak for the majority of riders on this forum that DO ride on the street. The bike is a great street bike as long as you don't expect a long range comfort etc. much (like most other sport bikes sold from all the major manufacturers nowadays.)
A super bike is a compromise to a point. However after a guy spends over $25k on a new bike he should not have to spend another $1000 to just make one run smoothly the way it should have in the first place. The mere fact that I could simply change the air filter and add a RapidBike Racing module and it runs instantly better should tell you something. These bikes like many others are neutered from the factory because of the ...... EPA requirements. The 1299 S is an expensive motorcycle and I don't think it is unreasonable to want it to run properly when you spend that kind of money. Anyone else disagree with me?
If you are happy with yours surging and having terrible throttle response that so be it. But you can "roll you eyes" all you want it doesn't make you right.

Speedy
 

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