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I think something got lost in translation regarding the steering head and swingarm pivot. The pics I've seen so far don't show that. Maybe they meant "adjusted"?
 
This is the IL4 bike to have now.
Shame it's a porkie pie, the weight is a real let down but everything else is super trick and I can't wait to be the first to ride one. Kawasaki can really do no wrong in my eyes with their sports bikes lately, apart from the weight. This and the H2 are a bit too heavy.
 
I think for the price even the weight isnt too bad. You start changing to aftermarket bolt on parts and you drop weight rq. And for the price for pipes and rims vs our prices is awesome.
 
I think something got lost in translation regarding the steering head and swingarm pivot. The pics I've seen so far don't show that. Maybe they meant "adjusted"?


I stand corrected. The parts to adjust the swingarm and steering stem position are in the race kit. As well as adjustable swingarm pivot.


Moving the head pipe back 7.5 mm closer to the rider helps places more weight on the front. The increased front-end feel contributes to increased stability and confidence on corner entry - helping with both braking and turn-in - and when flicking the bike from one side to the other.

Reversible offset collar (race kit part) allows the steering stem position to be adjusted +/-4 mm forward/backward from the standard position. This adjustability allows riders to set up the bike to suit track or riding style.

Reversible offset collar (race kit part) allows the swingarm pivot position to be adjusted +/-2 mm up/down from the standard position. This adjustability allows riders to set up the bike to suit track or riding style.
 
It's likely mostly in exhaust, headlights etc. I saw a build thread on the kawi forums of a guy racing in Canada where there was a 370 pound weight minimum and he was worried about hitting it with just basic track prep and a lightweight battery.

Yep.

In race trim the Kawi is one of the lighter bikes.

Kawi does a job of getting around noise and emissions regulations with their exhaust. They know everyone will shitcan the OEM exhaust anyway. So they put large bore Titanium headers on the bike, then a monster of a muffler...knowing that is an easy fix.

On the RSV4, most of the weight is in the chassis and motor. In race trim, it is still heavy as .....

On the ZX, there is a lot of weight in the OEM exhaust and bodywork/lights. Put race bodywork, a 1/2 exhaust system and a lightweight battery and you have a really light bike with a ton of power.
 
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At the end of the day, I still give the R1 a slight edge, only because of the power delivery (and subsequent mechanical grip) of the crossplane motor.

They both have good brakes, both have the latest Bosch IMU and fantastic electronics package, both make great power, etc.

In other words, they are very, very similar...with the crossplane motor of the R1 being the major difference. And when it comes to jumping off apex, you cant beat the power delivery of a crossplane I4 or a V4.

The new R1 is basically an "easy button". As soon as it came out, good riders became better, fast riders got faster and faster riders started winning. The chassis and motor are incredible. Plus it is light and has great electronics.

Looks? Who gives a ....? Looks are subjective. You can't please everyone when it comes to looks.
 
Lots of big improvements this year from the ole green and blue. May not matter to most, but the looks and the sound provide the edge of the Panigale for me.
 
Five Things You Need to Know About The 2016 Kawasaki ZX-10R:
1. It's ugly
2. It's ugly
3. What's that buzzing sound?
4. It looks like an Arctic Cat snowmobile that's been beat by drunk rednecks.
5. It's ugly.

Ha.
 
I'm curious how many club racers are going to show up to the track with new kawasaki forks on their GSX-R's...
 
I'm curious how many club racers are going to show up to the track with new kawasaki forks on their GSX-R's...

Roughly none. If you are going to go through the hassle of making your bike ineligible for superstock classes, you aren't going to be putting OEM grade forks on. I'm sure they are badass for stock equipment, but there is no way they will be as good as aftermarket cartridge kits considering the price of the bike.
 
I'm curious how many club racers are going to show up to the track with new kawasaki forks on their GSX-R's...

I would bet a month's salary on exactly none.

Roughly none. If you are going to go through the hassle of making your bike ineligible for superstock classes, you aren't going to be putting OEM grade forks on. I'm sure they are badass for stock equipment, but there is no way they will be as good as aftermarket cartridge kits considering the price of the bike.

This.
 
Aftermarket exhaust, remove passenger pegs and seat, add rear cowl and fender eliminator and I think it will look pretty damn good.

I have never been a fan of 3 spoke wheels so that would go for me as well.
 
MSRP for the KRT Edition is $16,299 and the regular is $15,999. The only difference in the 2 is the price and paint job.
 
The R isn't worth twice the price of a ZX-10R, in fact the average guy would probably go just as fast if not faster on the 10R on any track

You ride a Ducati because you want something different, not because you're looking for cost effective speed - the Japs still own that category and probably always will...
 
Value and worth is a sliding scale and higly subjective. Japs can have it. If you ride a two wheeled machine for value alone, if you're on anything over 49cc its all ......... Let's be honest.

I want the Panigale for the feeling it give me when I ride it. If I raced as a profession, I'd take the bike that allowed me to travel even .1 seconds faster. Anything less is just f'n stupid and a contradiction to the basic concepts of racing. To quote another poster here, the jap bikes...most of them...just kind of have a garish and childish quality to them.

For the passion rides nothing else has risen to fill that need than the Panigale.
 
For the passion rides nothing else has risen to fill that need than the Panigale.

You nailed it, for the passion of riding it's hard to beat, but if I was a racer on a budget (and most racers are, unless they're independently wealthy - most of those guys are older) it would be my last pick. All most racers care about is having the quickest lap time around a given track, and with $30k invested in Ducati or Kawasaki, who's going to be faster? No brainer.
 

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