Hi all...figured I'd pass along my experience with a Phil exahust. He was great to deal with, great communication, and the final product is impressive. Seriously nasty sounding.
I jumped the gun and bought a BrenTune in advance of installing it assuming it would need a remap.
I had my dealer do the swap because it was in for it's 600mi service anyway, and for a couple hundred bucks it was worth saving there skin on my knuckles. First time I tried to remove the stock can I failed.
Anyhow, got it home, loaded the tune they sent me...and it ran pretty poorly. Stumbled at low RPMs worse that stock if you can believe that and had a huge flat spot 4-6k.
Loaded the stock tune back in today and she runs like a champ. Off idle response is much better than before the swap...no need to feather the clutch so much away from stops or low speed maneuvers, and the flat spot is gone. High RPM seems solid too but I don't have anything to compare to because I've never experienced anything over 7k on this bike anyway due to break in. i'm assuming I might be giving up something in the upper band without a tune but at this point i'm not missing it yet.
We'll see how it responds over the coming weeks as the exhaust and the computer get to know each other better, but for now it seems I may have bought a tune I didn't need.
Phil's exhaust even comes with a neutered valve still intact so if you hook the cables back up you don't even need a tune or a plug to avoid the CEL.
Price is very reasonable and stylistically I actually prefer a more stock look over the aftermarket type configurations. The shields he sends back have these trick titanium flame arrestor mesh pieces riveted to the exits which I transferred over to some CF ones from Motocomposites. I will say the glossy clear coat on the shields milked up some due to heat, but it's in places you don't really see/notice. Wondering if this is just the thick glossy clear coat not being heat friendly and possibly the matte versions of these shields might not fog up?
short cold start sound check :
-John
I jumped the gun and bought a BrenTune in advance of installing it assuming it would need a remap.
I had my dealer do the swap because it was in for it's 600mi service anyway, and for a couple hundred bucks it was worth saving there skin on my knuckles. First time I tried to remove the stock can I failed.
Anyhow, got it home, loaded the tune they sent me...and it ran pretty poorly. Stumbled at low RPMs worse that stock if you can believe that and had a huge flat spot 4-6k.
Loaded the stock tune back in today and she runs like a champ. Off idle response is much better than before the swap...no need to feather the clutch so much away from stops or low speed maneuvers, and the flat spot is gone. High RPM seems solid too but I don't have anything to compare to because I've never experienced anything over 7k on this bike anyway due to break in. i'm assuming I might be giving up something in the upper band without a tune but at this point i'm not missing it yet.
We'll see how it responds over the coming weeks as the exhaust and the computer get to know each other better, but for now it seems I may have bought a tune I didn't need.
Phil's exhaust even comes with a neutered valve still intact so if you hook the cables back up you don't even need a tune or a plug to avoid the CEL.
Price is very reasonable and stylistically I actually prefer a more stock look over the aftermarket type configurations. The shields he sends back have these trick titanium flame arrestor mesh pieces riveted to the exits which I transferred over to some CF ones from Motocomposites. I will say the glossy clear coat on the shields milked up some due to heat, but it's in places you don't really see/notice. Wondering if this is just the thick glossy clear coat not being heat friendly and possibly the matte versions of these shields might not fog up?
short cold start sound check :
-John
