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I did the 23 also quite some time ago. I use it as you said to look for anomalies in the base code that are problematic then look for ways to correct them. With regard to some of the other comments,

I completely agree on the scam aspect of the industry. The OX therapy flat out works. I don’t know how many of you have experienced hypoxia but once you do, you’ll get it. I don’t have a set resting regiment. I will literally take a nap whenever I feel a timeout is necessary to maintain peak performance. If I nap in the HBOT tent, it’s a noticeable difference.

I’m not sold on the light therapy yet. The grounding? I spend a lot of time in sand so I’m on the fence there as well. Who doesn’t feel more energized at the beach in the sun.

With regard to living it up till you drop, all for it, it’s just a lot easier to keep the party going when your health isn’t failing. I started lifting at 15 so I have had the luxury of an augmented physique for 45 years which is a game changer in all aspects of life. So the cornerstone for me has been resistance training. I can do just about everything I did in my 20s now without issue.

Again statistically speaking, just about everyone on this board barring an accident is going to succumb to cardiovascular disease and or heart failure. Hopefully it’s not when you’re behind the wheel of a car with your family in tow. Start taking this .... seriously. It’s a bit of discipline that can yield life changing results.

The grounding thing is important, but all you really have to do is be barefoot outside a lot, which is much better for your musculoskeletal system anyway.

With regard to light, one of the suppositions as to why the Kenyan runners dominate global distance running is the huge amount of time they spend in the sun growing up, thereby dramatically increasing vitamin D, which in turn aids the absorption of every other nutrient you bring in
 
The CDC states the leading causes of death in the US are heart disease, cancer and accidents. Of the three the mostly likely one that should concern us are the motorcycle stats- its very ugly.

Ridership and demographics

From 1980 motorcycle ownership among riders aged 40 and over increased dramatically, from 15.1 percent of all riders in 1980 to 43.7 percent in 1998. The mean engine displacement of the motorcycles involved in fatal crashes also increased, from an average engine size of 769 cc (46.9 cu in) in 1990, to 959 cc (58.5 cu in) in 2001, an increase of 24.7 percent.[11] It has been suggested that the combination of older riders on higher-powered motorcycles might have been partially responsible for the increase in motorcycle deaths from the late 1990s until 2004.[11] Blunt abdominal trauma can be caused by a motorcycle accident, and can damage the testes and intestines.[12]

Half of motorcycle fatalities in single-vehicle crashes relate to problems negotiating a curve prior to a crash—almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities in single-vehicle crashes occur at night.[8] However, even when riders survive, around 10% of trauma injuries include damage to the genital area, such as due to the collision of that area with a bike's gas tank.[13]

Motorcycle accidents were the leading non-combat cause of death for US service members.[18] Between 1999 and 2012 4,423 died in combined motor vehicle deaths including motorcycles.[19] Of those 1,134 died in motorcycle crashes.[20] Between 2001 and 2008, the portion of fatalities from motorcycles tripled, and by 2008 was almost 40% of overall vehicle fatalities.[19] Motorcycle deaths have come under increased attention because other types of non-motorcycle fatalities have decreased, so motorcycle fatalities became an increased share of deaths.[19] The fatalities echoed the national statistics with motorcycle fatalities of 4,927 deaths being 15 percent of all traffic deaths in 2012, even though motorcycles are three percent of vehicles.[21] However, they account for a relatively smaller amount of the total miles traveled (motorcycles are often only driven in good weather) about 0.7% of all vehicles miles traveled 2012.[7] (About half a million people to a million people would die each year if cars had a similar accident rate, all else being equal.)

93% of the crashes in 2012 involved a two-wheeled motorcycle
.Of 4,957 killed in 2012 on motorcycles, 7% were passengers.[22] Combined driver and passenger deaths for motorcycles were 18% of all driver and passenger deaths in 2012 for all vehicles.[22] This is for just 0.7% out of all vehicles miles driven in the US that year.[22]

and it keeps getting worse;

The data shows that most deaths occur in the afternoon evenly split rural urban which given the population density would suggest single vehicle accidents on sunny afternoons out in the country are one of the leading causes of death in our sport

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The stats demonstrate that some of us latte lurkers will die on our beloved Ducati motorcycles well before natural causes.
 
Lots of those stats about bike diminish greatly by riding these bikes where they belong on a track with properly deployed safety barrier

Exactly…to be honest I’ve never been much of a canyon carver and never will be, when I ride the bike on the street the only curves I push remotely hard on are a local clover leaf set of on/off ramps when there is no traffic and where I can see everything around the bend.

For street riding basically I just find and empty highway and do a few hard pulls to keep myself use the 150+ mph between track days and to get a few seconds of adrenaline, which I need frequently…but curves on public roads at even close to knee down speeds, no thank you.

Gravel, rocks, oncoming cars, cliffs to slide off…

When I was in high school my brother suffered a brain trauma and was in a long term care facility for years…80% of the people in there with him were in motorcycle accidents and had there helmets on, and still suffered enough brain trauma from a crash to never fully recover. Cruiser bikes for cruising and sightseeing on the streets, these bikes are for the track.
 
It’s the main reason I have a Bobber. Fun but you don’t find yourself doing crazy stuff. Just worry about all the crazy people in SUVs on cell phones.
Had to make sure I had plenty of track time so
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I was just researching about the NAD IV treatments, and it sounds interesting but curious the frequency and duration required to really see benefits? Would this be something once in a great while to help boost healthy cell reproduction or does it really require constant treatments every 2 weeks to see benefits?
 
I was just researching about the NAD IV treatments, and it sounds interesting but curious the frequency and duration required to really see benefits? Would this be something once in a great while to help boost healthy cell reproduction or does it really require constant treatments every 2 weeks to see benefits?

The way I read the info out there is that the marketers are using smoke and mirrors, the facts are that there is no conclusive independent data that NAD treatments do what they say on the box. Every few years another fad comes along with the same promises whether it be acupuncture, homeopathy, drinking bleach or whatever and if it sounds too good to be true it's probably ......... High tech medical treatment only available to the quite wealthy? The first symptom it treats is an overstuffed wallet!
 
Whoring, Bikes and Lattes. A trifecta of pleasure for sure!!

It’s what you do when you own a Ducati no?
 
Lots of those stats about bike diminish greatly by riding these bikes where they belong on a track with properly deployed safety barrier

Absolutely, but one of our local tracks had two fatalities in the last 12 months, here's screenshot from a session on the 1299 showing pretty much the spot where both occurred and as you can see there is no room for .... ups. This is a sport with consequences
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to add that why the recent thread on wheelnuts is so weird, it could literally kill you if you dont follow procedure, just do it right folks and be safe.
 
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Absolutely, but one of our local tracks had two fatalities in the last 12 months, here's screenshot from a session on the 1299 showing pretty much the spot where both occurred and as you can see there is no room for .... ups. This is a sport with consequences
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to add that why the recent thread on wheelnuts is so weird, it could literally kill you if you dont follow procedure, just do it right folks and be safe.

There’s only two sports, racing and fighting, the rest are games, precisely because there’s no consequences lol
 
The way I read the info out there is that the marketers are using smoke and mirrors, the facts are that there is no conclusive independent data that NAD treatments do what they say on the box. Every few years another fad comes along with the same promises whether it be acupuncture, homeopathy, drinking bleach or whatever and if it sounds too good to be true it's probably ......... High tech medical treatment only available to the quite wealthy? The first symptom it treats is an overstuffed wallet!

So my undergraduate is in biology, with an emphasis on biochem, then macro biology, I’m certainly not a subject matter expert as I spent the last 25 years in a completely different field…but I’m also fairly good at debunking this stuff.

I’m pretty convinced about NAD in general, what they haven’t figured out yet is effective dosing levels and regimes in humans, though they have in mice.

It’s not proven that oral ingestion metabolizes properly, and they have only conducted low level injectable trials, at dosages that are roughly 1/100th of the dosage regime that was shown affefective in mice.
 
So my undergraduate is in biology, with an emphasis on biochem, then macro biology, I’m certainly not a subject matter expert as I spent the last 25 years in a completely different field…but I’m also fairly good at debunking this stuff.

I’m pretty convinced about NAD in general, what they haven’t figured out yet is effective dosing levels and regimes in humans, though they have in mice.

It’s not proven that oral ingestion metabolizes properly, and they have only conducted low level injectable trials, at dosages that are roughly 1/100th of the dosage regime that was shown affefective in mice.

@Steven31371 There's certainly somthing behind it but it's hard to digest fact from fiction and given the cost would be good to understand what's really required to see some benefits...
 
Carful Super, we’ve been giving you an “ignorance” hall pass for a long time but you’re now really testing our generosity. I thought it was just motorcycle related.

Hahaha what you need is a UV enemas and shiny crystals to align your shakiras. Magnets too!!! Whatever floats your boat.

Love that this was posted in the V4 section. I guess if you can afford an exorbitant motorcycle like this, then you're ripe to be conned into this crap.

How many HP does NADs give you?
 
So my undergraduate is in biology, with an emphasis on biochem, then macro biology, I’m certainly not a subject matter expert as I spent the last 25 years in a completely different field…but I’m also fairly good at debunking this stuff.

I’m pretty convinced about NAD in general, what they haven’t figured out yet is effective dosing levels and regimes in humans, though they have in mice.

It’s not proven that oral ingestion metabolizes properly, and they have only conducted low level injectable trials, at dosages that are roughly 1/100th of the dosage regime that was shown affefective in mice.

As someone who has an undergrad in bio, you should know that NAD IV therapy is basically vitamins dissolved in water. And if you think that IV admin makes any difference, then like I said before: I have a bridge to sell you.

Also what is macro biology? That sounds like a whole lot of BS if I've ever heard of it hahahahahaha
 
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