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Ruhe52 said:
Lots of those stats about bike diminish greatly by riding these bikes where they belong on a track with properly deployed safety barrier
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Exactly…to be honest I’ve never been much of a canyon carver and never will be, when I ride the bike on the street the only curves I push remotely hard on are a local clover leaf set of on/off ramps when there is no traffic and where I can see everything around the bend.

For street riding basically I just find and empty highway and do a few hard pulls to keep myself use the 150+ mph between track days and to get a few seconds of adrenaline, which I need frequently…but curves on public roads at even close to knee down speeds, no thank you.

Gravel, rocks, oncoming cars, cliffs to slide off…

When I was in high school my brother suffered a brain trauma and was in a long term care facility for years…80% of the people in there with him were in motorcycle accidents and had there helmets on, and still suffered enough brain trauma from a crash to never fully recover. Cruiser bikes for cruising and sightseeing on the streets, these bikes are for the track.
 
It’s the main reason I have a Bobber. Fun but you don’t find yourself doing crazy stuff. Just worry about all the crazy people in SUVs on cell phones.
Had to make sure I had plenty of track time so
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I was just researching about the NAD IV treatments, and it sounds interesting but curious the frequency and duration required to really see benefits? Would this be something once in a great while to help boost healthy cell reproduction or does it really require constant treatments every 2 weeks to see benefits?
 
Seth Vo said:
I was just researching about the NAD IV treatments, and it sounds interesting but curious the frequency and duration required to really see benefits? Would this be something once in a great while to help boost healthy cell reproduction or does it really require constant treatments every 2 weeks to see benefits?
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The way I read the info out there is that the marketers are using smoke and mirrors, the facts are that there is no conclusive independent data that NAD treatments do what they say on the box. Every few years another fad comes along with the same promises whether it be acupuncture, homeopathy, drinking bleach or whatever and if it sounds too good to be true it's probably ......... High tech medical treatment only available to the quite wealthy? The first symptom it treats is an overstuffed wallet!
 
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Whoring, Bikes and Lattes. A trifecta of pleasure for sure!!

It’s what you do when you own a Ducati no?
 
Ruhe52 said:
Lots of those stats about bike diminish greatly by riding these bikes where they belong on a track with properly deployed safety barrier
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Absolutely, but one of our local tracks had two fatalities in the last 12 months, here's screenshot from a session on the 1299 showing pretty much the spot where both occurred and as you can see there is no room for .... ups. This is a sport with consequences
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to add that why the recent thread on wheelnuts is so weird, it could literally kill you if you dont follow procedure, just do it right folks and be safe.
 
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Paul G said:
Absolutely, but one of our local tracks had two fatalities in the last 12 months, here's screenshot from a session on the 1299 showing pretty much the spot where both occurred and as you can see there is no room for .... ups. This is a sport with consequences
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to add that why the recent thread on wheelnuts is so weird, it could literally kill you if you dont follow procedure, just do it right folks and be safe.
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There’s only two sports, racing and fighting, the rest are games, precisely because there’s no consequences lol
 
Paul G said:
The way I read the info out there is that the marketers are using smoke and mirrors, the facts are that there is no conclusive independent data that NAD treatments do what they say on the box. Every few years another fad comes along with the same promises whether it be acupuncture, homeopathy, drinking bleach or whatever and if it sounds too good to be true it's probably ......... High tech medical treatment only available to the quite wealthy? The first symptom it treats is an overstuffed wallet!
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So my undergraduate is in biology, with an emphasis on biochem, then macro biology, I’m certainly not a subject matter expert as I spent the last 25 years in a completely different field…but I’m also fairly good at debunking this stuff.

I’m pretty convinced about NAD in general, what they haven’t figured out yet is effective dosing levels and regimes in humans, though they have in mice.

It’s not proven that oral ingestion metabolizes properly, and they have only conducted low level injectable trials, at dosages that are roughly 1/100th of the dosage regime that was shown affefective in mice.
 
Steven31371 said:
So my undergraduate is in biology, with an emphasis on biochem, then macro biology, I’m certainly not a subject matter expert as I spent the last 25 years in a completely different field…but I’m also fairly good at debunking this stuff.

I’m pretty convinced about NAD in general, what they haven’t figured out yet is effective dosing levels and regimes in humans, though they have in mice.

It’s not proven that oral ingestion metabolizes properly, and they have only conducted low level injectable trials, at dosages that are roughly 1/100th of the dosage regime that was shown affefective in mice.
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@Steven31371 There's certainly somthing behind it but it's hard to digest fact from fiction and given the cost would be good to understand what's really required to see some benefits...
 
endodoc said:
Carful Super, we’ve been giving you an “ignorance” hall pass for a long time but you’re now really testing our generosity. I thought it was just motorcycle related.
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Hahaha what you need is a UV enemas and shiny crystals to align your shakiras. Magnets too!!! Whatever floats your boat.

Love that this was posted in the V4 section. I guess if you can afford an exorbitant motorcycle like this, then you're ripe to be conned into this crap.

How many HP does NADs give you?
 
Steven31371 said:
So my undergraduate is in biology, with an emphasis on biochem, then macro biology, I’m certainly not a subject matter expert as I spent the last 25 years in a completely different field…but I’m also fairly good at debunking this stuff.

I’m pretty convinced about NAD in general, what they haven’t figured out yet is effective dosing levels and regimes in humans, though they have in mice.

It’s not proven that oral ingestion metabolizes properly, and they have only conducted low level injectable trials, at dosages that are roughly 1/100th of the dosage regime that was shown affefective in mice.
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As someone who has an undergrad in bio, you should know that NAD IV therapy is basically vitamins dissolved in water. And if you think that IV admin makes any difference, then like I said before: I have a bridge to sell you.

Also what is macro biology? That sounds like a whole lot of BS if I've ever heard of it hahahahahaha
 
Steven, you’d have better luck explaining motorcycles to him. Oh, wait, never mind. I’ve seen his threads. Just let it go.
 
No no I'd love to hear an explanation of how this revolutionary therapy that's in plain sight but no major pharmaceutical company or reputable healthcare provider offers it
 
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