1199 R exhaust an Akra?

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didn't the SL arrive with the Homologated exhaust installed, and a separate set of race mufflers only ?
 
RD16RR said:
...well, i'm notsaying that "all things are equal"...but i'd think, since historically R models always had a race exhaust, that "it might" be the same for the 2015 R.....(power of positive thinking, until it is known for sure) :)
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It's known for sure. Pani R will come as I described, you can bet on it.
 
so let me get this straight and i think i have it here. if you buy a new R you dont get a full exhaust and have to go buy Ti headers. However you can buy a full evo system from akra which is Ti everything. So you get the R pay 34k and still have to BUY Ti headers. Really

you guys are defending this saying SS is better than Ti am i in bizzaro world here?

lastly with the sl you dont get a full ti system what bs.
 
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SS has better thermal properties than Ti.

Ask all the race teams about the cracked (nice and shiny and sooo light ) Ti headers ;)

also die to the dimension / design of the first header part out of the cylinder head, ss seems to be more suitable, since casting Ti seems to be very special and apparently akra has found a way to do it but others not...
 
mark419ny said:
so let me get this straight and i think i have it here. if you buy a new R you dont get a full exhaust and have to go buy Ti headers. However you can buy a full evo system from akra which is Ti everything. So you get the R pay 34k and still have to BUY Ti headers. Really

you guys are defending this saying SS is better than Ti am i in bizzaro world here?

lastly with the sl you dont get a full ti system what bs.
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I wish I had as much time on my hands as you! Still better to be busy than bitter.
 
Phl said:
SS has better thermal properties than Ti.

Ask all the race teams about the cracked (nice and shiny and sooo light ) Ti headers ;)

also die to the dimension / design of the first header part out of the cylinder head, ss seems to be more suitable, since casting Ti seems to be very special and apparently akra has found a way to do it but others not...
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mine are not cracked, but they are shiny and sooo light
 
TJ99 said:
Price is still being determined. The Pani R stock system is full ti, with the exception of steel headers because steel manages the intense heat at the exhaust port better than ti. Same as the Superleggera.
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I just read this one. So the "Pani R stock system is full ti."..but it actually is not, we just say it is and forget about the headers.

Interesting take on the word "full"

Sounds like something Jerry Seinfeld would say.
 
Difference between stainless n titanium headers in terms of weight is hardly anything. The weight difference is in the cans. It's not even worth mentioning whether it's a bargain or a ripoff of weight savings is your angle for a debate.
 
bradp51 said:
I just read this one. So the "Pani R stock system is full ti."..but it actually is not, we just say it is and forget about the headers.

Interesting take on the word "full"

Sounds like something Jerry Seinfeld would say.
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More like McDonald's, and the beef that's in the burger is100% beef, in that everything that's Ti in the system is Full Ti :)
 
Ironic how the guys that are into bling and image (and continually make impulse buys based on that criteria and then whine about being disappointed) are commisserating about minute sprung weight savings, flapper valves, and led's when none of those things will have a true material impact to their riding. Yet the guys that'll actually race the bike and actually notice some of those differences are just fired up with the changes Ducati has made in tbe new lineup.
 
double0 said:
Difference between stainless n titanium headers in terms of weight is hardly anything. The weight difference is in the cans. It's not even worth mentioning whether it's a bargain or a ripoff of weight savings is your angle for a debate.
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You sure are correct about the weight savings in the mufflers. Big difference.

Re the headers.

Stock front equals 600grams Akra front header is 210 grams

Stock rear is 700grams and the Akra rear header is 290 grams

So between the two 1.3kg vs 0.5kg. So not too bad a saving.
 
Now that's a comparison between the stock system off the base/S model but is that the same as the headers used on the SL or the new R?

I mean not a huge difference but still good info.
 
double0 said:
Now that's a comparison between the stock system off the base/S model but is that the same as the headers used on the SL or the new R?

I mean not a huge difference but still good info.
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all stock from S
 

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