1199 Superleggera exclusive gear

reganc said:

Ask your ducati dealer ( i see you are from NYC so Ducati Soho run it at times) they have a Dainese fitter come into the store a couple of times a year to measure you up for a customized suit, as far as i remember it's around $3k but I didn't think that was for Kangaroo leather (i may be wrong).

However if spending that type of money i would want one of the airbag suits or i would go with RS taichi.

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Didn't expect it to be that much, especially without an airbag system and no Kangaroo.

TJ99 said:

OK, we get it, you could do a better job than the hacks on Ducati's marketing team. You can speak for the SL customers, too.

Could you point us to some successful superpremium product/marketing campaigns that illustrate your strategy? Maybe LaFerrari owners got discounted driving suits, Veyron customers received half off on their first oil change, I don't know.

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I certainly don’t need to provide examples of “superpremium product/marketing campaigns” to form an opinion, do I? I suppose, then, that only Ducati engineers or licensed Ducati master technicians should have the right to make comments on this forum regarding criticism and improvements to performance or heat issues? Where exactly would you draw the line in this ideological system of yours whereby only those willing to post professional credentials shall bear the right to formulate an opinion on public forums?

If you've been following the dialogue, you'd see I never stated anything remotely indicating that I feel Ducati’s marketing team are hacks, or that I am speaking on behalf of Superleggera owners, so your post is actually completely off base. Posting nonsensical provocations will only serve to dissipate any credibility you possess (based on your previous posts, this is probably already suspect), but if you think you may actually have something of value to contribute to the discussion, please feel free to begin anytime.

Duck41 said:

I certainly don't need to provide examples of "superpremium product/marketing campaigns" to form an opinion, do I? I suppose, then, that only Ducati engineers or licensed Ducati master technicians should have the right to make comments on this forum regarding criticism and improvements to performance or heat issues? Where exactly would you draw the line in this ideological system of yours whereby only those willing to post professional credentials shall bear the right to formulate an opinion on public forums?

If you've been following the dialogue, you'd see I never stated anything remotely indicating that I feel Ducati's marketing team are hacks, or that I am speaking on behalf of Superleggera owners, so your post is actually completely off base. Posting nonsensical provocations will only serve to dissipate any credibility you possess (based on your previous posts, this is probably already suspect), but if you think you may actually have something of value contribute to the discussion, please feel free to begin anytime.

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your argument is ridiculous, of course people would like a discount on specialist goods after forking out so much money on a bike but it's not going to happen and it makes zero difference to the owners satisfaction as they are buying the bike not the add ons and it will have no impact on whether they purchase another limited edition Ducati.

They are buying one of the most exclusive and desirable bikes on the planet giving a token reduction on some gear makes no difference. This is my opinion and i have bought a couple of these limited edition bikes in the past.

reganc said:

your argument is ridiculous, of course people would like a discount on specialist goods after forking out so much money on a bike but it's not going to happen and it makes zero difference to the owners satisfaction as they are buying the bike not the add ons and it will have no impact on whether they purchase another limited edition Ducati.

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You state my argument is ridiculous, and then concede that you believe these customers would indeed like a discount after paying so much for this bike, which has been my argument all along. This seems contradictory. You then state that you believe financial incentive programs would make zero difference to owner satisfaction, which is also contradictory if it is in fact something these customers would like to any degree. How can they like it, and yet it have zero effect on customer satisfaction?

My argument has never been that doing this would directly influence these owners to buy another limited edition Ducati (many variables here), but has always been that if they are running an add-on promotion for these customers that includes a $4k helment on top of the purchase of a $65k bike, then a discount would have been a nice gesture. What may actually be ridiculous is that this idea is being opposed so vehemently by a select few posters.

Duck41 said:

You state my argument is ridiculous, and then concede that you believe these customers would indeed like a discount after paying so much for this bike, which has been my argument all along. This seems contradictory. You then state that you believe financial incentive programs would make zero difference to owner satisfaction, which is also contradictory if it is in fact something these customers would like to any degree. How can they like it, and yet it have zero effect on customer satisfaction?

My argument has never been that doing this would directly influence these owners to buy another limited edition Ducati (many variables here), but has always been that if they are running an add-on promotion for these customers that includes a $4k helment on top of the purchase of a $65k bike, then a discount would have been a nice gesture. What may actually be ridiculous is that this idea is being opposed so vehemently by a select few posters.

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I'm going to call Ducati and tell then they have got it all wrong

Duck41 said:

I never stated anything remotely indicating that I feel Ducati's marketing team are hacks, or that I am speaking on behalf of Superleggera owners, so your post is actually completely off base.

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"Not many are impressed by Ducati offering..."
"...alludes to a preposterous mismanagement in company resources."
"...it could have been more effectively executed."

Your words, buddy. You seem really angry.

It's too bad you couldn't find any real-world examples to support your idea of superpremium-goods accessory discounting, I was genuinely looking forward to the education.

Perhaps the rest of the world just hasn't caught up to you yet?

Instead of getting the gear through the dealer where I will pick up my SL, I will prob get it through a friend of mine who is a branch manager at another dealership and he has a really good relationship with DNA.

He showed me the dealer prices vs retail for the stuff and was offering me to purchase it at 10% above dealer price so in effect I would save a couple of hundred bucks which I would take any day instead of buying it at retail price through my bike delivery dealer..

Am pretty keen on the suit though as there is no Dainese dealer here to get custom fits done and having my name on it in a custom art style is something I would love to have and since the option is there I wouldn't wanna pass that up. He was also prepared to help get my measurements taken... couldnt ask for more there.. really good buddy and I would say that's a sweet deal to pounce on..

Am undecided on the helmet though and may take a call before the end April deadline.

Thamer said:

Didn't expect it to be that much, especially without an airbag system and no Kangaroo.

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Reganc is correct. The Dainese custom fitting and design is a minimum of $3K, you can indeed choose kangaroo leather (as I did) for parts of the jacket. I had to wait about 9 months for my order to arrive.

Guys I am selling a 2014 Ducati corse race suit that looks identical to this suit.
http://ducati1199.com/classifieds/1...acing-suit-2014-racing-gloves.html#post148312

Miami Tricolore said:

Guys I am selling a 2014 Ducati corse race suit that looks identical to this suit.
http://ducati1199.com/classifieds/1...acing-suit-2014-racing-gloves.html#post148312

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beat me to it i was going to make the announcement and for those of you who don't have a SL and would love this suit i would jump on this

TJ99 said:

"Not many are impressed by Ducati offering..."
"...alludes to a preposterous mismanagement in company resources."
"...it could have been more effectively executed."

Your words, buddy. You seem really angry.

It's too bad you couldn't find any real-world examples to support your idea of superpremium-goods accessory discounting, I was genuinely looking forward to the education.

Perhaps the rest of the world just hasn't caught up to you yet?

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You're making this pretty easy. Taking statements out of context is only going to substantially weaken your argument in the long run. Let's take a look and I'll address each reference.

"Not many are impressed by Ducati offering..."
This is in reference to the responses generated within this thread. Saying that not many are impressed here is accurate. This doesn’t imply the promotion is a hack job or exclude the possibility that some may actually be impressed with it. Additionally, SL owners are not specifically mentioned, so it is clearly not an attempt to speak on their behalf.

Strike one.

"...alludes to a preposterous mismanagement in company resources."
This statement was in response to a claim made suggesting the promotion is likely generating $60-$100k in overhead. I responded by saying that I do not believe this to be accurate and that if it is accurate, it would allude to a dire case of mismanagement. Again, this doesn’t imply I’m speaking on behalf of SL owners or that the Ducati marketing team consists of hacks.

Strike two.

"...it could have been more effectively executed."
This statement was prefaced with “in my opinion”, meaning … it is my opinion. No mention of the Ducati marketing team being hacks, and clearly there is no attempt to speak on behalf of SL owners. So, strike three.

Keep them coming.

TJ99 said:

Your words, buddy. You seem really angry.

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Not angry at all. Hey, it's all in good fun. I enjoy engaging in a bit of banter, provided the discussion can stay at least somewhat on topic and not significantly detract from the purpose of the thread.

I feel like I'm back in AP English every time I read Duck41's posts. My iQ goes up a point with each sentence that contains words I haven't heard or had to use since my senior year of high school. Now my iQ is at a nice n even 50! Woohooo! I prefer to dumb it down while engaging in a little banter.

Thumbs up for proper English lol

LOL seriously

My opinion only -

Non SL owners making statements of how SL owners should feel about pricing for this merchandise is absurd.

People who have not bought limited edition numbered bikes from Ducati don't understand the Ducati ownership experience on that level.

Ducati marketing SL merchandise to the SL crowd makes the most economic sense.

Luxury brand marketing/sales is completely different than mainline market sales.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. People who actually own the equipments opinion carries more weight than those making statements about relative worth or price/value for that item.

again - my opinion only.

Not SL but here's my 1000$ custom suit from Ricondi.

That actually looks like a really nice suit. Can't tell about quality but sure looks sweet!

double0 said:

That actually looks like a really nice suit. Can't tell about quality but sure looks sweet!

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Quality is not 5-star but almost, the red color around bellybutton is coming off a bit from rubbing against the tank. Haven't gone down with the suit yet, but I think I'd be fine doing it.
I like the fact that you can design your own suit with them, for a very reasonable price.

Ricondi +1

only if I could afford .....

CaliDuc said:

The SL was brought out to up the game against the HP4.

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Isn't that what the R was supposed to be for? How can you compare bikes at such different price points?

And I didn't read the rest of this thread, but for $65k, I would expect custom gear included with the bike!