1299 and 1299s still get ...... 39 tooth sprocket

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For a newbie like me... can you share the benefits? Getting a 1299S... should I be looking at adding this to the mod list? What are we talking about, cost wise? and what is the complete part list (chain, etc.) Thank you.

There was an issue in the power band on the first Panigale models that changing the sprocket helped. Ducati fixed this with a software update and is no longer an issue. The last mod you need to worry about is changing Ducati's gearing.
 
There was an issue in the power band on the first Panigale models that changing the sprocket helped. Ducati fixed this with a software update and is no longer an issue. The last mod you need to worry about is changing Ducati's gearing.

Yea like Trauma said and since it's the 1299 and not the 1199 I would ride it first before even thinking about gearing changes. Not the same bike.
 
1299 has approx 10% more torque and 5% more power...for sure ride it first before even considering changing anything....
 
Actually, there were a lot of discussions that the software fix did away with the need for the sprocket. So this whole thread is a moot point.

Quite right:)

Sadly, Mark is dredging up out dated .... for another one of his mindless .... stirs:eek:

Or is it Trolling?

To compound the issue he calls legitimate forum contributors Asshats:(
 
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Come on Brother!

BMW still has the deformed front headlights, but I'm not posting that on the BMW forum.:rolleyes:

Some people don't mind the 39 tooth sprocket.:)

I never changed mine on my old "S".:)


Neither did I.

I have no problem with it what so ever.
In fact I think I prefer it just the way it is over the 41T option.
And that's just what it is (an option).
Not a necessary modification due to a design flaw or an improvement as is incorrectly inferred by The OP.
But certainly a well considered "requirement and a good compromise" on DUCATI's behalf, which is a product of the type of commercial decisions driven by realities which all manufacturers have to make.

IMO, the OP is either ignorant, and or a Troll.
I put it to the OP to back up his claims with reasoned arguments in order to legitimise his position.

His insistence upon making irrelevant remarks about the bike, along with the name calling are wearing a bit thin:(
 
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1299 has approx 10% more torque and 5% more power...for sure ride it first before even considering changing anything....

Further to this.
You can always change it to different gearing when it comes time to replace your chain and sprockets after they've worn out;)
There's no disadvantage, or out of pocket expenses when you do it this way.
 
well it seems that the 1299 and 1299s still get the ...... 39 tooth rear sproket while the R gets the 41 tooth sprocket. i wonder why this is can it be they want you to upgrade bwhahaha :rolleyes:

Let's take a closer deeper look at this..... Hmmmm, the 1299/1299s both have more torque and the engine is different from the 1199 with the old mapping so who's to say the 39T sprocket is ...... until you ride it. Also, the R is a different machine from the 1299 as it remains an 1199 and is setup for the track which would probably benifit from the 41T. Seems like logical gearing choices from Ducati by me and without actually riding them first hand who's to say different?
 
Let's take a closer deeper look at this..... Hmmmm, the 1299/1299s both have more torque and the engine is different from the 1199 with the old mapping so who's to say the 39T sprocket is ...... until you ride it. Also, the R is a different machine from the 1299 as it remains an 1199 and is setup for the track which would probably benifit from the 41T. Seems like logical gearing choices from Ducati by me and without actually riding them first hand who's to say different?

It comes out of boredom. Sitting around looking for things to pick on, waiting for the reaction. Doesn't mean a thing, but works for him quite well :)
 
For a newbie like me... can you share the benefits? Getting a 1299S... should I be looking at adding this to the mod list? What are we talking about, cost wise? and what is the complete part list (chain, etc.) Thank you.

For a newbie?.. just learn to ride the thing.
Go sign up for level 1 and 2 of Californian Superbike School. Will cost about $1000 and 2 days of your time, this will get you way more enjoyment out of your bike than any mod could.

I only went with sprocket "upgrade" due to the huge discount ducati were offering at the time.
 
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For a newbie?.. just learn to ride the thing.
Go sign up for level 1 and 2 of Californian Superbike School. Will cost about $1000 and 2 days of your time, this will get you way more enjoyment out of your bike than any mod could.

I only went with sprocket "upgrade" due to the huge discount ducati were offering at the time.

Most sound advice on this thread.

Cheers
JT
 
Yes, going to try the 39T on my new track bike before even thinking about changing it. Might be perfect.
 
The R has a 41 because it has additional revs to work with. Mathematically it leaves them approximately the same speed in each gear as the 1299/1299S. It's not a conspiracy, just math.
 
Yes. Ducati actually gears their bikes properly to rev out at redline. Not like the mathematical 300mph top speed of the Zx10's retarded gears.

You can get as many gears and chains setups as you want to. It doesn't take long to swap. Kinda newb stuff. Not really worth complaining about.

If you gear down you'll lose some top speed on the S's. But who goes there anyways?
 
On the street, I never change gearing. If I want more acceleration, I will just downshift. I have always thought it was funny when people change sprockets because they want more acceleration, but yet they ride around with the bike at 5k-7k RPM all the time (mostly referring to I4's that are meant to stay above 10k RPM).

I have never seen a need to change gearing on a street bike, especially a Liter bike.

It is even more comical when we are talking about a "necessity" to change gearing on a bike that makes 200hp and 100lb/ft of torque. If somebody needs more gearing with that kind of power/weight ratio, they should probably work on keeping the bike at the optimal RPM's.

On the track, there is no such thing as "right" gearing. Gearing, like suspension setup, changes from track to track. The goal is to avoid being "between gears" as much as possible, to be able to finish out straightaway's in a particular gear without having to upshift and then downshift 50' later, to be able to maximize corner exits and to eliminate gearbox manipulations when possible. And the gearing it takes to accomplish those things will change based upon track layout.
 
On the street, I never change gearing. If I want more acceleration, I will just downshift. I have always thought it was funny when people change sprockets because they want more acceleration, but yet they ride around with the bike at 5k-7k RPM all the time (mostly referring to I4's that are meant to stay above 10k RPM).

I have never seen a need to change gearing on a street bike, especially a Liter bike.

It is even more comical when we are talking about a "necessity" to change gearing on a bike that makes 200hp and 100lb/ft of torque. If somebody needs more gearing with that kind of power/weight ratio, they should probably work on keeping the bike at the optimal RPM's.

On the track, there is no such thing as "right" gearing. Gearing, like suspension setup, changes from track to track. The goal is to avoid being "between gears" as much as possible, to be able to finish out straightaway's in a particular gear without having to upshift and then downshift 50' later, to be able to maximize corner exits and to eliminate gearbox manipulations when possible. And the gearing it takes to accomplish those things will change based upon track layout.

Is that a clutchless downshift while accelerating?...........

:D :D :D
 
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