1299S or R?

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1299s. Im just getting back to the track days so no full fledged race beast needed.
 
First question that popped into my head when I saw the lineup. I know one of these will end up on my late xmas list, but if you're a road and track rider which one would you choose? Aaand go:

For the track?

Used 1199 base. 1299 lineup isn't going to make me any faster on the track. Take the money you'd save buying a used 1199 base and get it set up properly.

For the street?

Hypermotard SP. The Panigale is a track bike.
 
Depending on what tracks you ride, the 899 Panigale makes a great track day bike too.
 
Kind-of what I'm wondering too...track only for me-

Did the mid-range get addressed on the new R?

Haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet....

According to the live presentation, the 1299 has strengthened the mid range.
 
I read somewhere $25k for S, $33k for R and $19k for base. I may be off a little but roughly that's it.
 
The electronic suspension seems to be something that track riders will love. It's not unpredictable, reacting to road conditions, like the skyhook or HP4. It's event based, it will go to a known specific setting at corner entry, mid-corner, exit and hard braking. Best of both worlds. Can't wait to see it in real tests!
 
The electronic suspension seems to be something that track riders will love. It's not unpredictable, reacting to road conditions, like the skyhook or HP4. It's event based, it will go to a known specific setting at corner entry, mid-corner, exit and hard braking. Best of both worlds. Can't wait to see it in real tests!

Wondering if the pre-programmed response will work as well on the street.
 
It sounded like it. They said it will figure out mild acceleration and less lean angle as street riding and tune accordingly. Remains to be seen in real life testing.
 
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I'm not going to do any serious racing on my next bike so 1299S would be my pick. I feel like I would notice the difference between an 1199S and 1299S more than the 1199R to the 1299R.

Event based adjustable suspension on the road if works correctly should be pretty huge.
 
Worse thing is they kept the Marzocchi scaffold poles, I think the new 1199r is the way to go rather than a bigger engine, I like the way BMW have developed the s1000rr, because they got it right in the first place and was able to improve and keep the momentum going of that bike, except the looks of course. I won't buy the 1299 (never say never), I would buy the new 1199 r
 
Worse thing is they kept the Marzocchi scaffold poles, I think the new 1199r is the way to go rather than a bigger engine, I like the way BMW have developed the s1000rr, because they got it right in the first place and was able to improve and keep the momentum going of that bike, except the looks of course. I won't buy the 1299 (never say never), I would buy the new 1199 r

Ducati got the 1199 wrong power/torque wise in the mid-range. They claim the new 1299 fixes those issue, we will have to wait and see
 
Ducati got the 1199 wrong power/torque wise in the mid-range. They claim the new 1299 fixes those issue, we will have to wait and see

The graph the put up last night is near enough a mirror of the 1199 just a higher point through out I don't have a power issue with mine, its seems to go when I twist the throttle, least thats what the Police guy said when he was taking my money!
 
The graph the put up last night is near enough a mirror of the 1199 just a higher point through out I don't have a power issue with mine, its seems to go when I twist the throttle, least thats what the Police guy said when he was taking my money!

before and after(exhaust and tune), on the 1199. there is seriously issue with the mid-range torque. yes the power may still be good but the bike lacks the mid-range torque. i didn't think there was anything wrong with the standard 1199 till i had this done

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before and after(exhaust and tune), on the 1199. there is seriously issue with the mid-range torque. yes the power may still be good but the bike lacks the mid-range torque. i didn't think there was anything wrong with the standard 1199 till i had this done

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No to divert from the point of the thread but are you happy with it now? What exhaust system did you use, relevant cause I'm in the market for that!
 
Yeah this is going to suck.....deciding...lol. I have an R....do I need another....hmmm, probably like I need hemohorrids. I much rather just have an upgrade kit for my 2013.

Now the limited R1 looks like it's going to be an option. Or just get a 1299 for street and track?

What I really need is a place to hide this .... from my wife, I don't think it will fit in the attic.
 

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